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Scoot makes just as much sense as Brandon Miller to me.
The Blazers already have a Brandon Miller. Jerami Grant.
Scoot is a mid-range shooter who pushes the pace and passes the ball extremely well. There is nobody similar to Scoot on the Blazer roster.
Scoot would solve the problem of lack of full-court play and ball movement in the half-court offense.
Scoot would also be able to unlock the full potential of Shaedon Sharpe. Watford will never be a starter, and Dame and Ant are either unable or not interested in throwing the ball in the air for Sharpe.
No one knows what kind of facilitator Scoot will be. Unlock the full potential of Sharpe? Not likely being a mediocre shooter. NBA players are gonna force Scoot to shoot outside. His dunks are coming against G League talent. NBA players aren't going to just let him drive with the ease he does in the G League.
 
Scoot makes just as much sense as Brandon Miller to me.
The Blazers already have a Brandon Miller. Jerami Grant.
Scoot is a mid-range shooter who pushes the pace and passes the ball extremely well. There is nobody similar to Scoot on the Blazer roster.
Scoot would solve the problem of lack of full-court play and ball movement in the half-court offense.
Scoot would also be able to unlock the full potential of Shaedon Sharpe. Watford will never be a starter, and Dame and Ant are either unable or not interested in throwing the ball in the air for Sharpe.
Scoot's game is a lot like Jaden Ivey's. Ivey's stats were good last season. Not Dame (rookie season ) good, but good. I don't see Scoot just coming in and dominating right away. We all know Dame is awesome. Scoot's game success in the NBA is purely speculative.
 
Scoot's game is a lot like Jaden Ivey's. Ivey's stats were good last season. Not Dame (rookie season ) good, but good. I don't see Scoot just coming in and dominating right away. We all know Dame is awesome. Scoot's game success in the NBA is purely speculative.

Ivey just really isn't a point guard. He's a scoring combo guard, and he's not a very good one.

Ivey shot 41.6% from the floor and 34% from three. He averaged over 3 turnovers per game as a shooting guard with 5 assists. That's..... not good.

He's also not the athlete that Scoot is.
 
Ivey just really isn't a point guard. He's a scoring combo guard, and he's not a very good one.

Ivey shot 41.6% from the floor and 34% from three. He averaged over 3 turnovers per game as a shooting guard with 5 assists. That's..... not good.

He's also not the athlete that Scoot is.
When he came in last year, he surely was considered uber athletic. Watching hightlights, the only difference i'm seeing between the two is Scoot is slightly quicker.
 
When he came in last year, he surely was considered uber athletic. Watching hightlights, the only difference i'm seeing between the two is Scoot is slightly quicker.

It annoys the hell out of me that neither one of them did the pre-draft measurements. I'm glad the NBA is making that a requirement moving forward.
 
Ivey just really isn't a point guard. He's a scoring combo guard, and he's not a very good one.

Ivey shot 41.6% from the floor and 34% from three. He averaged over 3 turnovers per game as a shooting guard with 5 assists. That's..... not good.

He's also not the athlete that Scoot is.
Scott shot 43% from the floor, and 28% from 3. Scoot had a higher turnover % than Ivey. Scoot put up a 98 ORtg, and a 122 DRtg. He had a negative WS/48.
He got to the line less than 3 times per game. For someone that isn't a 3 point threat, he also doesn't appear to be a threat to get to the line.

All of that...not good.

And Jaden was being compared to Ja Morant coming out of college. He's a hell of an athlete.
 
It's fun to look at. But in no way would Philly do that if the #3 pick wasn't included. Getting Embiid could be done. Embiid for Nurk/Simons, and picks works . But not without the #3 and probably, at least 2 more 1st. involved in deal. Which leaves little for a Jaylen Brown Addition to be done.

im trying to make it work Jennifer!
 
i meant can we do sign and trades within a larger trades like that? Im clueless to most of the cba restrictions.
You can include S&Ts in larger deals, yes. The difficulty is combining it with a pick, since you can't negotiate with free agents until after the draft. So we'd have to pick for a different team, and hope our FA plays along. It basically never happens.
 
You can include S&Ts in larger deals, yes. The difficulty is combining it with a pick, since you can't negotiate with free agents until after the draft. So we'd have to pick for a different team, and hope our FA plays along. It basically never happens.

Yeah that sounds super risky.
 
Awful be the best squad we’ve had since Sheed days. Now if you’re saying I’m idiot because those trades wouldn’t/couldn’t happen I wouldn’t disagree with that lol

You're not an idiot, but that part did make me laugh lol
 
Btw Masai Ujiri seems like he demands a TON for his players
Sounds a little like Olshey. Except , of course, Masai did make the move for Kwahi and won it all. But Olshey seemed to be unwilling to part with CJ, but gave in and traded too much comp for so so returns in trades. Funny that Neil, who wasn't all in on PDX, is still seen in the area.
 
Scott shot 43% from the floor, and 28% from 3. Scoot had a higher turnover % than Ivey. Scoot put up a 98 ORtg, and a 122 DRtg. He had a negative WS/48.
He got to the line less than 3 times per game. For someone that isn't a 3 point threat, he also doesn't appear to be a threat to get to the line.

All of that...not good.

And Jaden was being compared to Ja Morant coming out of college. He's a hell of an athlete.

Where are you getting your stats?

Scoot had an ORtg of 115.9 and a DRtg of 118.

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Here is Ivey

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This isn't great for an apples to apples comparison because A) it's a tiny tiny tiny sample size for Scoot and B) this is someone playing in the G League compared to someone playing in the NBA, HOWEVER Scoot put up better numbers pretty much across the board.
 

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To be fair, the 2020-21 was shortened and the last two seasons, we rested Nurk at end of season to tank.

To be fair, if I was 7' instead of 6' I would have been in the NBA. :blazerwookie:

No, I get what you are saying. I think the shorten year was 72 games instead of 82 plus 6 playoff games I believe. Not really a big difference. I could be wrong on the numbers though. I knew them yesterday but I am over 50 so...
 
Where are you getting your stats?

Scoot had an ORtg of 115.9 and a DRtg of 118.

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Here is Ivey

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This isn't great for an apples to apples comparison because A) it's a tiny tiny tiny sample size for Scoot and B) this is someone playing in the G League compared to someone playing in the NBA, HOWEVER Scoot put up better numbers pretty much across the board.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/gleague/players/h/hendesc01d.html

weird discrepancy there.
 
Where are you getting your stats?

Scoot had an ORtg of 115.9 and a DRtg of 118.

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Here is Ivey

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This isn't great for an apples to apples comparison because A) it's a tiny tiny tiny sample size for Scoot and B) this is someone playing in the G League compared to someone playing in the NBA, HOWEVER Scoot put up better numbers pretty much across the board.
Big difference between G League and NBA though.
 
3 and Johnson for 5 and Duren

Then

5, Nurk and Ant for Siakam

Dame
Sharpe
Grant
Siakam
Duren
I think the Pistons would do this if it's Miller but it might need a third team if it's Scoot. I like it though. It makes a lot of sense. Maybe with the exception of the fact that Dame said that he's not down with anymore 19 year olds and Duren will still be 19 when the season tips off. Just kidding, I think he'd be OK with an extremely athletic C that was almost a 10 and 10 guy in under 25 minutes per game in his rookie season, especially if it came along with Siakam.
 

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