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illmatic99 said:
I heard this last night and thought he meant he talked to Portland media (maybe his locked on counterpart in Richman). Doubt this guy from NO has any sources of significance in the Portland FO.
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Most don't.
 
Graduate32 said:
No way am I taking on the "shot-in-the-dark" that is Zion Williamson for the Ant, the #3, and #23 without receiving a ton more compensation than a future first. And secondly, no way Charlotte is trading the #2 pick for Ant, Herb, and #14.
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I can see Charlotte trading #2 for Zion. He is from the Charlotte area and is probably worth the risk for them.
 
twobullz said:
Just saw this suggestion on another site. Not sure I am all in on Zion, he is a stud when he plays, the problem is he is in street clothes more then a uniform.

The trade Pelicans must offer Blazers to get No. 3 pick
Blazers receive: Zion Williamson, future first-round pick (via Pelicans)

Pelicans receive: No. 2 pick, No. 3 pick, No. 23 pick

Hornets: Anfernee Simons, Herb Jones, No. 14 pick
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If Ant and flotsam gets the 2nd pick, Portland can make the deal with Charlotte and eliminate NO and stay clear of Zion.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Yeah I feel like people forgot that he really wasn’t that spectacular on Phoenix.
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he wasn't spectacular or dynamic, but he was outstanding in his role as secondary scorer, ace defender, 3&D, and glue-guy. Those are all integral roles on a contender

then he went to Brooklyn and thrived as the #1 option. To be sure, the sample size of his Brooklyn surge is incredibly small vs the rest of his career (31 games vs 400 games), but it is impressive that he has been very successful is several different roles. And, he's also that very valuable and somewhat rare 2-way player (at least it's rare in Portland).

all that said, he's not worth more than #3 + Simons. But he's the only 'target' among him, Siakam, Brown, Ingram that I think is worth that price. The rest of them have too many negative factors attached and there would need to be something else coming back to Portland. The Blazers wouldn't be trading a 7-10th pick; they'd be trading a top-3 pick in what apparently is a 3 person draft. Pay up if you want it because, contrary to all the reporting, I think Portland is more than fine with keeping that pick
 
twobullz said:
Just saw this suggestion on another site. Not sure I am all in on Zion, he is a stud when he plays, the problem is he is in street clothes more then a uniform.

The trade Pelicans must offer Blazers to get No. 3 pick
Blazers receive: Zion Williamson, future first-round pick (via Pelicans)

Pelicans receive: No. 2 pick, No. 3 pick, No. 23 pick

Hornets: Anfernee Simons, Herb Jones, No. 14 pick
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WTF!?!?

how in the unforgiving holy hell did the Pelicans get out from under the albatross contract they reportedly really want to escape because they know what the future holds for Zion (Blazers take heed!) and end up with the 2nd, 3rd, & 23rd picks in the draft by trading that albatross contract, #14 and a future pick (hey, lets make sure it's heavily protected because we wouldn't want the Pelicans to put any value into this abortion of a trade). By the way, Herbert Jones is seriously overrated, especially in this forum

and why oh why, would Charlotte trade the #2 for that? If Portland had the #2 pick, would they trade it for Ant?

ggggeeeezuzzz I've seen some really really stupid-dumb trade ideas, but that one is top-10
 
illmatic99 said:
Scoot has last weekend. Miller apparentl scheduled for today. They've both been closed door with no media or interviews. They're certainly playing this close to the chest, but I think the Miller stuff now is strictly a smokescreen.
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Yeah I watched a video alluding to this. But I have my doubts the guy knows what he is talking about. My guess is they either trade it or go with Miller. But I have flipped-flopped about 10 times now.
 
This hasn't been released on youtube yet, but I listened on Spotify and it's a good episode.

 
wizenheimer said:
he wasn't spectacular or dynamic, but he was outstanding in his role as secondary scorer, ace defender, 3&D, and glue-guy. Those are all integral roles on a contender

then he went to Brooklyn and thrived as the #1 option. To be sure, the sample size of his Brooklyn surge is incredibly small vs the rest of his career (31 games vs 400 games), but it is impressive that he has been very successful is several different roles. And, he's also that very valuable and somewhat rare 2-way player (at least it's rare in Portland).

all that said, he's not worth more than #3 + Simons. But he's the only 'target' among him, Siakam, Brown, Ingram that I think is worth that price. The rest of them have too many negative factors attached and there would need to be something else coming back to Portland. The Blazers wouldn't be trading a 7-10th pick; they'd be trading a top-3 pick in what apparently is a 3 person draft. Pay up if you want it because, contrary to all the reporting, I think Portland is more than fine with keeping that pick
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Josh Lloyd thinks Simons/3 is more than enough for Bridges and the Nets would snatch that up immediately. He actually thinks the 3 is worth more than that and that Simons/3 should be something like Bridges/Claxton.

But obviously that depends on whether Scoot is there.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Josh Lloyd thinks Simons/3 is more than enough for Bridges and the Nets would snatch that up immediately. He actually thinks the 3 is worth more than that and that Simons/3 should be something like Bridges/Claxton.

But obviously that depends on whether Scoot is there.
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Ok if 3 is worth more then trade Nurk and 3 for Bridges and then flip Simons and 2 future picks for Siakim ;) jk
 
Natebishop3 said:
This hasn't been released on youtube yet, but I listened on Spotify and it's a good episode.

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This podcast is always pretty good. The only annoying thing is the 30 minutes format. I could hear more but I know this is how they do it at Locked On.
 
SwissBlazer said:
This podcast is always pretty good. The only annoying thing is the 30 minutes format. I could hear more but I know this is how they do it at Locked On.
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Yeah they go for quantity over quality. I know how this works because Hoopsworld used to do daily articles too, and trying to come up with something to talk about EVERY SINGLE DAY can really water things down.

So instead of a really good 1 hour or 2 hour interview once a week, they do 30 minutes a day.
 
wizenheimer said:
he wasn't spectacular or dynamic, but he was outstanding in his role as secondary scorer, ace defender, 3&D, and glue-guy. Those are all integral roles on a contender

then he went to Brooklyn and thrived as the #1 option. To be sure, the sample size of his Brooklyn surge is incredibly small vs the rest of his career (31 games vs 400 games), but it is impressive that he has been very successful is several different roles. And, he's also that very valuable and somewhat rare 2-way player (at least it's rare in Portland).

all that said, he's not worth more than #3 + Simons. But he's the only 'target' among him, Siakam, Brown, Ingram that I think is worth that price. The rest of them have too many negative factors attached and there would need to be something else coming back to Portland. The Blazers wouldn't be trading a 7-10th pick; they'd be trading a top-3 pick in what apparently is a 3 person draft. Pay up if you want it because, contrary to all the reporting, I think Portland is more than fine with keeping that pick
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And to piggy back on this post, Bridges is an ironman. Never missed a game and he takes a lot of pride in that. Also, he has a ridiculously team friendly contract. Three years left on it.
 
Predator said:
Looks like a trade down for 4 is out of the question
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yes, because front offices are so honest and straight-forward this time of year

however, if the Rockets were interested in jumping up they'd probably be more likely to jump ahead of Portland instead of flipping position. Charlotte would have to cooperate though and right now they are holding the strongest hand. Whatever they do starts a cascade event
 
Natebishop3 said:
Josh Lloyd thinks Simons/3 is more than enough for Bridges and the Nets would snatch that up immediately. He actually thinks the 3 is worth more than that and that Simons/3 should be something like Bridges/Claxton.

But obviously that depends on whether Scoot is there.
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why would Brooklyn be more interested in Scoot than Miller?
 
Natebishop3 said:
Yeah they go for quantity over quality. I know how this works because Hoopsworld used to do daily articles too, and trying to come up with something to talk about EVERY SINGLE DAY can really water things down.

So instead of a really good 1 hour or 2 hour interview once a week, they do 30 minutes a day.
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In a way, I like the daily podcast. Offers a good update on all things regarding the Blazers. But a few longer episodes when it's worth it would be good. But I know Mike is following the guidelines. I don't always agree with him (that's what podcast are here for) but I feel that he is doing a good job of analyzing the team and what at stakes at every point of the year.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Star power. Scoot seems to have that "it" factor, whereas Miller doesn't. Scoot is the kind of exciting star that NYC embraces.

Or at least that's the story.
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makes sense although I'd think there is only one prospect with the pre-draft It factor and he's going to San Antonio. The pre-draft It seems to wear off fast after the draft and the reality is there's not a lot of It watching unless you're a lottery team

I guess I'd think if Bridges is actually available for #3, Charlotte is likely to step in front of Portland and make the deal
 
wizenheimer said:
yes, because front offices are so honest and straight-forward this time of year

however, if the Rockets were interested in jumping up they'd probably be more likely to jump ahead of Portland instead of flipping position. Charlotte would have to cooperate though and right now they are holding the strongest hand. Whatever they do starts a cascade event
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They typically aren’t, but I view this as:

If it takes Brandon Ingram or Zion to get to 2/3, in order for us to beat that price, we aren’t interested.
 
SwissBlazer said:
In a way, I like the daily podcast. Offers a good update on all things regarding the Blazers. But a few longer episodes when it's worth it would be good. But I know Mike is following the guidelines. I don't always agree with him (that's what podcast are here for) but I feel that he is doing a good job of analyzing the team and what at stakes at every point of the year.
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Agree or disagree with Mike, you have to appreciate that he is able to keep a level head throughout. He can express a viewpoint and then also explore other perspectives rationally. It's a breath of fresh air compared to much of the Blazer fan and media related content out there.
 
AmirIcon said:
Because Scoot can lead a franchise and he has higher upside.
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Amen has higher upside than Scoot and can lead a franchise, so why not a boner for him too?

Not to mention he’s good defensively and has super size and athleticism
 
wizenheimer said:
why would Brooklyn be more interested in Scoot than Miller?
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If you listen to the podcast, he says that Scoot is in a tier above anyone else (except Wemby). He says that Scoot would be the #1 pick in a lot of past drafts. That potential to be a superstar is worth a lot.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Because Josh Lloyd does not agree with you.
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Agree with me?

I am pretty sure it’s damn-near consensus that Amen Thompson has the second highest ceiling of anyone in this draft.

He’s also probably most likely to bust.
 
Predator said:
Amen has higher upside than Scoot and can lead a franchise, so why not a boner for him too?

Not to mention he’s good defensively and has super size and athleticism
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I like him too but the fact that his shot is broken and he performed in a questionable league begs the question.

I'm not sure you can skip on Scoot or Miller who have less question marks.
 
Predator said:
Amen has higher upside than Scoot and can lead a franchise, so why not a boner for him too?

Not to mention he’s good defensively and has super size and athleticism
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Amen may be a good distributor & defender but I have a hard time with a guy that is supposed to have such a high ceiling, and hasn't learned to shoot threes, in todays game.
Most round ball junkies when young work on that three constantly and it usually pays off.
I used to play city league and there were dudes that could defend, board and play with aggression but they never worked on improving a shot. If a guy has talent when young the only way he doesn't develop a decent shot is for a lack of putting in the work and development.
 
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Natebishop3 said:
If you listen to the podcast, he says that Scoot is in a tier above anyone else (except Wemby). He says that Scoot would be the #1 pick in a lot of past drafts. That potential to be a superstar is worth a lot.
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but, from what I can tell, the choir of voices saying Scoot is overrated it getting louder

of course, everybody lies. Except me. You can trust me because I never lie and I'm always right
 
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