Politics What if it turns out the other side was right?

[MarAzul]

George HW Bush is the true example of a class President.

Yes, well I will take that as your opinion. I thought so highly of him that I voted for Bill Clinton instead.
Can you imagine how painful that vote was?

 

[H.C.]

He told you to be quiet (shut up) 14 posts after you tagged him and attacked him. He actually was keeping his emotions mostly in check before then.

Send me a ss via pm because I remember it different.
Or.
Edit your post.

I even remember & can still see part of the post I mocked of his via my reply to Barfo.

 

[BonesJones]

Yes, divisive language needs to be done away with regardless of where it comes from.
As it does nothing but further the divide.



I didn't abandon it.
But if someone insults me while failing to use the forum rules of attacking the post not the poster.
I'm going to find a more intelligent way to respond to the insult while attempting to toe the line.

Sorry man but you're really not grasping it...

 

[H.C.]

But I get it Democrats are angels. Republicans are demons.

Sorry man but you're really not grasping it...

 

[Hobbesarable]

Yes, well I will take that as your opinion. I thought so highly of him that I voted for Bill Clinton instead.
Can you imagine how painful that vote was?

Why did you dislike him, Marzy?

 

[BonesJones]

Is this supposed to somehow show me that you are indeed, grasping it?

It doesnt.

 

[Chris Craig]

There are no angels here

 

[MarAzul]

@MarAzul thinks specifically the father must be a citizen

I am not trying to get to what MarAzul thinks is the meaning. I am pointing out that the Constitution does contain the requirement that the President be a Natural born Citizen. I only know of one place contemporary with creating the Constitution where the term is defined, it is in Natural Law.

 

[H.C.]

Is this supposed to somehow show me that you are indeed, grasping it?

It doesnt.

Look there is nothing to grasp.
At the end of the day my first reply to Cup wasn't divisive at all.
I simply said both sides are to blame for the divide this country has.

If you're reading more into it that's your problem.

At the end of the day this is the second time in many months I remember engaging with you in the OT section.
That other time you believed I was unfairly attacking @Cippy91 when I wasn't.
Hell I had even said some of the same things you were saying in that thread to cippy when he first joined the forum. But you felt the need to come to his defense and say I was unfairly attacking him. You know because that's what I do, circle jerk with posters like hcp/barfo/etc.
Since then without your imput @Cippy91 has agreed with me that I wasn't unfairly attacking him.

You're a good dude, and I enjoy talking basketball with you.
But I'm pretty much done with you in the OT section.

 

[MarAzul]

Why did you dislike him, Marzy?

He was a pretend conservative. Immigration was supposed to be cleaned up after the Reagan amnesty. Bush did nothing.
No new taxes, then he promptly went along with raising taxes.
I did not particularly like his war where we send American troops to take back the oil field for the Kuwaitis princes either.
I could go on some more. but...
Bill Clinton was not an improvement.

 

[BonesJones]

Look there is nothing to grasp.
At the end of the day my first reply to Cup wasn't divisive at all.
I simply said both sides are to blame for the divide this country has.

If you're reading more into it than that's your problem.

At the end of the day this is the second time in many months I remember engaging with you in the OT section.
That other time you believed I was unfairly attacking @Cippy91 when I wasn't.
Hell I had even said some of the same things you were saying in that thread to cippy when he first joined the forum. But you felt the need to come to his defense and attack me.
Since then without your imput @Cippy91 has agreed with me that I wasn't unfairly attacking him.

You're a good dude, and I enjoy talking basketball with you.
But I'm pretty much done with you in the OT section.

Yeesh. You literally created conflict with "posts like this are divisive". How is that anything but divisive? Then, when he "attacks you", you attack back, all while trying to callout people creating conflict and divide through their opinions?

If you cant see the hypocrisy in that, then oh well. But quit being so sensitive over the fact that I think your acting divisive by attacking someone which conflicts with you complain about how people are acting divisive. I haven't insulted you, or even disrespected you. So the "I'm done with you" stuff is silly, and frankly, divisive as well.

Were "divided" because of poor communication. So I'm calling you out in the same way you called out someone else, and you don't want to even communicate anymore? Do you really not see the irony?

 

[Chris Craig]

I am not trying to get to what MarAzul thinks is the meaning. I am pointing out that the Constitution does contain the requirement that the President be a Natural born Citizen. I only know of one place contemporary with creating the Constitution where the term is defined, it is in Natural Law.

And I am asking how is Obama not?

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Someday what will EVENTUALLY happen is that I'll be proven right.

That is that the FBI and CIA and the rest of them knew what Trump had done before he even took office.

Clapper lying about spying on all of us ring a bell?

They knew and they're reverse engineering a case out of it.

 

[H.C.]

Yeesh. You literally created conflict with "posts like this are divisive".

The conflict was already created when he made that post.
Good day.

 

[BonesJones]

The conflict was already created when he made that post.
Good day.

He stated his opinion on Trump. You called out his opinion and used it as a scapegoat for divisiveness. But you know what happened so I digress.

 

[H.C.]

He stated his opinion on Trump. You called out his opinion and used it as a scapegoat for divisiveness. But you know what happened so I digress.

Why do I have to repeat myself?
Fuck it I'll just quote myself again.

It's posts like these from both sides which further divide the country.
I know many only-Republicans who believe Obama embarrassed the country more than any president due to his 'apology tour'.
Now we have only-Democrats on here claiming Trump has embarrassed the USA more than any other president.

I call nonsense like this out irl, I'll call it out here as well as nonsense.

How do those two sentences help solve the issues of today?
They don't.
But you know this, so I digress.

 

[lawai'a]

i like the slow drain of the swamp through the special councils investigation. i hope they reopen the hillary tapes and drain some from the democratic side too.
good and bad people on both sides, lol.

 

[H.C.]

Two posters who don't 'get it'.
Two posters who 'got it and understood no one side is to blame for the way the country is today'.

.500
Pretty good in sports.

 

[riverman]

i like the slow drain of the swamp through the special councils investigation. i hope they reopen the hillary tapes and drain some from the democratic side too.
good and bad people on both sides, lol.

I honestly thought the original idea was to throw out the Russians and find out how they got a foot in the door with either party

 

[CupWizier]

Damn, i go to the store and the same guy is trying to act all innocent and still going at it. This is pretty hilarious.

 

[lawai'a]

I honestly thought the original idea was to throw out the Russians and find out how they got a foot in the door with either party

the collateral damage is delicious. by and large, i find most politicians creepy in their desire for power and the lengths they are willing to go to to retain it. you and master Hobbessrable have it mostly right.
there is certainly entertainment value if you can get past the sadness.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

the collateral damage is delicious. by and large, i find most politicians creepy in their desire for power and the lengths they are willing to go to to retain it. you and master Hobbessrable have it mostly right.
there is certainly entertainment value if you can get past the sadness.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-presidency-must-end-apos-085548049.html

 

[dviss1]

FIFY



I will not use rhetoric like this as it serves no purpose other than for people to burry their heads in the sand.

But I get it @barfo Democrats are angels. Republicans are demons.

Real question:

What reasons do conservatives give a person like me to vote for them?

Truly.

They're against police reform.
They're against healthcare for all.
They're against prison reform.
They're against firearm safety laws.
They're against minimum wage.
They're against tuition free higher learning.
They're against food stamps.

And they're pro war. Pro oil.
Anti climate change.

And yes.

Conservatives are the ones mad at Kaepernick.
Conservatives are the ones waving the stars and bars.
Conservatives fought for Jim Crow and against civil rights.
Conservatives want to force women to have the babies of their rapists (I challenge any of you to prove this wrong).
Conservatives (less and less of y'all) support an obvious racist in the white house.

Why in HELL should I ever vote for a conservative? Please enlighten me.

 

[dviss1]

I call her out when she says shit like that, not because I believe shes racist. But because I believe shes a bigot

Those two things are the same...

 

[lawai'a]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-presidency-must-end-apos-085548049.html

yup, the Brits see the entertainment value too. i wish our mess wasn't what it is. it will likely be as the benghazi hearings, only tit for tat, dem's investigating the administration to no end or conclusions. doubt we see 4 more years after 2020. we need a moderate from either party, someone to breach the divide. we will only likely get what we deserve instead.

 

[dviss1]

If you say. 'Trump is the most embarrassing president of all time.'
Someone will inevitably respond with. 'No Obama was'.

People who use this rhetoric are part of the problem.

No, the dude that responds that way is a fucking idiot and we don't need to worry about what he thinks. Did you even click the link I gave you above? To say Obama is more embarrassing completely flies in the face of reality:

This really was the only pic I needed to post...

Our president let Russian hookers give him a golden shower and other countries are laughing:


They laughed at him at the U.N.:



So when people say that, it's utter bullshit and what they say doesn't matter. It's about WHY they said it.

 

[dviss1]

thoughts like your posts have are why nothing ever gets accomplished.

Did you pay much attention to the Republican Senate obstruction during Obama's presidency?

Nancy Pelosi passed 450+ GOOD bills that never saw the light of day in the Senate due to filibuster or threat of the filibuster.

Now my problem with Obama was that he was too weak to SLAP these repubs with his balls and do the nuclear option, get rid of the filibuster and pass what the fuck he wanted to. He capitulated way to much for my taste.

We got Jackie Robinson instead of Satchel Paige..

 

[MARIS61]

Stop bullshitting and answer the question...

"What if it turns out the other side was right?"

Which "side" is "the other side" to you?

I'm on America's side, and against those who assault The Constitution and Freedom.

I already know most of the answers to the witch hunt, and expect no surprise evidence of any credible kind incriminating The President of anything illegal.

I have personally seen extensive evidence that the Clinton Trio are criminals, conspired to commit treason for profit, and were illegally protected by Obama and most of his Cabinet and many of their underlings. I've seen a rigged Dem primary, voter fraud across all of Broward County which is run by the same Dem who directed the rigged Dem primary and also "arranged" the Parkland murders for political goals.

Nothing could ever be done by anyone, good or bad, that would cause me to ever again vote for a Democrat or any bill proposed by them. The DNC is nothing more than a front for the Deep State and a pawn for George Soros.

 

[Cippy91]

Someday what will EVENTUALLY happen is that I'll be proven right.

That is that the FBI and CIA and the rest of them knew what Trump had done before he even took office.

Clapper lying about spying on all of us ring a bell?

They knew and they're reverse engineering a case out of it.

Lets say shit did happen and there was some collusion. Well the FBI and CIA are corrupt and always have been. We saw Hillary get away with the emails so it's possible here too. It's all fuckery to me at this point

 

[MARIS61]

Based on Marz logic, yes. Based on what I've always thought (born in the USA), no.

I mean, is this the morphed version of birtherism because it was proven Obama was born in Hawaii? So the response of the birthers is now "Oh, well, he's not a NATURAL born citizen" and then spin up a bunch of bullshit to support their racism? I guaran-fucking-t they would never try this bullshit on Trump. I wonder why?

Obama's Birth Certificate, if any exists, has never been presented.

A "Certificate of Live Birth" (not the same thing) was presented after 6 years (it just suddenly appeared out of nowhere) and it was immediately noted to have been created on a modern word processor which did not exist when Obama was born, with a font that was never available on typewriters.

The Fake Media ignored it and buried it, and the sheeple plodded along.