Event With the 16th pick, Blazers have selected Hansen Yang

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B-Roy said:
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wolves thing might have credence. Connolly picked Jokic, and the Wolves picked a center after.
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If this is true and Yang ends up developing to a starting level center Cronin/Schmitz will look like genius'

Would love for them to prove that. I'd heavily bet the under though.
 
Tince said:
That's not what you said...
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What I meant was it is meaningless. Put Jakucionis over there against that competition and he probably looks like Michael Jordan.

The American players on Yangs team were 2nd round scrubs in the NBA.
 
Tince said:
There are 33 GMs in the NBA?
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With all these teams that have GM and a boss thats "Pres of operations" or whatever there might effectively be more than 33. Not to mention the meddling owners, or meddling owners friends such as Kolde.
 


Hansen talk starts around 15min mark from back in April and I think Barlow knows his stuff.

Was this a reach? Probably, but we don't know what teams potentially wanted him and we have a young player at every position. If they feel he was BPA then I trust it. Looking back at rest of first round, I really don't see anyone we absolutely needed and Fleming is still there in R2.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
If this is true and Yang ends up developing to a starting level center Cronin/Schmitz will look like genius'

Would love for them to prove that. I'd heavily bet the under though.
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I guess. Still don't like that value though. We don't know if someone else would have taken him but I would have loved one more trade down if it was at all possible.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
What I meant was it is meaningless. Put Jakucionis over there against that competition and he probably looks like Michael Jordan.

The American players on Yangs team were 2nd round scrubs in the NBA.
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Sounds like he did ok in the predraft workouts, against other NBA prospects.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
With all these teams that have GM and a boss thats "Pres of operations" or whatever there might effectively be more than 33. Not to mention the meddling owners, or meddling owners friends such as Kolde.
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JFizzleRaider said:
I guess. Still don't like that value though. We don't know if someone else would have taken him but I would have loved one more trade down if it was at all possible.
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With our minimal knowledge, it feels like they could've risked moving down. However, there is clearly no way of knowing. I'd assume the front office people on the phones have a better feel than us, Screaming A Smith, or Twitter.
 
I haven't read through this thread in full because I was driving, but another thing to consider. How does Clingan feel about this? Not exactly a stamp of confidence to draft another Center in the first round the year after a decent rookie year.
 
I was excited when I heard Cedric Coward had been drafted. Concerned when it was apparent that there was a trade. Interested when I saw the return and still had names like Jakucionis, Flemming, Clifford, etc on the board. Then an emotion between confusion and anger when I heard the commish call out Yang Hansen.

My kneejerk response was that I hate these moves the last few days. That being said, I watch zero college hoops. Most of my opinions are formed on what I read here, some reputable mocks and occasional highlights. I form archetypes in my head based on these forms of input. Sometimes I’m right and sometimes I’m wrong. I dreamed of getting Tyrus Thomas and Adam Morrison and hated the Roy and Aldridge acquisitions. I loved getting Jerryd Bayless and thought Antonio Daniels was going to set the world on fire. I also wanted Damian Lillard and Andre Drummond.

Point is, many of us don’t watch as much basketball as the pros who get paid to do so. Maybe they got the pick right. Maybe they didn’t. Right now I’m pissed, but I’m willing to see how the offseason pans out and see how the young guys look in summer league.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
I haven't read through this thread in full because I was driving, but another thing to consider. How does Clingan feel about this? Not exactly a stamp of confidence to draft another Center in the first round the year after a decent rookie year.
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I doubt he cares too much.

If he's already worried Yang is better than him, Yang is almost certainly going to be better than him.
 
Tince said:
With our minimal knowledge, it feels like they could've risked moving down. However, there is clearly no way of knowing. I'd assume the front office people on the phones have a better feel than us, Screaming A Smith, or Twitter.
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I'm very skeptical about Yang. But I was skeptical about Clingan last year and he changed my mind, to a substantial degree

what didn't change in my mind is that Clingan is not mobile and is 100% a drop coverage-C. Having two of those on a team is one too many. Portland has 3

if Yang turns out to be the best C between he and Clingan, fine. I'd be wrong about him. I don't believe he will be and I really can't see how investing a 7th and 11th pick in two slow-footed bigs is a good use of draft capital...especially after watching the NBA finals and the type of bigs those teams had
 
Tince said:
It doesn't.
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Are you kidding?!
When Yao retired and Morey made a comment against the Chinese gov't, the league lost hundreds of millions of dollars. It was even discussed in the link in this thread.
This decision is 100% about money. I'd be willing to bet the decision was made for Cronin by the higher ups.
Yang is seen as a huge marketing rep in China. They have nobody else in the league. Basketball is a quickly rising sport in China and they spend a lot of money on training all the way down to grade schoolers.
The team is currently for sale and would probably sell for a relatively low number for an NBA team. But, when you realize that having the only player from an extremely heavily populated country and it doesn't take much smarts to know he is a significant asset.
The article talked about Yao and Shaq's first game against each other. It drew over 200 million viewers in China. The superbowl drew 130 million viewers.
To think that having a young, popular Chinese player on your team and the international attention he'll bring isn't gonna affect your teams value is shocking.
Watch how many jerseys sell in the next few months with his name on it. It will be surprisingly high. That is just the start of the revenue he will bring to a team that happens to be for sale.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
I guess. Still don't like that value though. We don't know if someone else would have taken him but I would have loved one more trade down if it was at all possible.
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"if it were true" as I posted was from the article that said Minnesota was going to take Yang at #17 the very next pick. It was explained that then Minnesota had issues and scrambled to draft a center in Beringer. So no there wouldn't have been any opportunity to trade down more.... IF that were true.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
I haven't read through this thread in full because I was driving, but another thing to consider. How does Clingan feel about this? Not exactly a stamp of confidence to draft another Center in the first round the year after a decent rookie year.
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I'd guess if Ayton is gone he will be fine with it. Your just not ever going to have an NBA roster with ONE legit center.

Probably not real excited if he is still backing up Ayton and has Yang trying to take his limited backup minutes - plus Timelord as the small ball option.
 
cheesehoff said:
Are you kidding?!
When Yao retired and Morey made a comment against the Chinese gov't, the league lost hundreds of millions of dollars. It was even discussed in the link in this thread.
This decision is 100% about money. I'd be willing to bet the decision was made for Cronin by the higher ups.
Yang is seen as a huge marketing rep in China. They have nobody else in the league. Basketball is a quickly rising sport in China and they spend a lot of money on training all the way down to grade schoolers.
The team is currently for sale and would probably sell for a relatively low number for an NBA team. But, when you realize that having the only player from an extremely heavily populated country and it doesn't take much smarts to know he is a significant asset.
The article talked about Yao and Shaq's first game against each other. It drew over 200 million viewers in China. The superbowl drew 130 million viewers.
To think that having a young, popular Chinese player on your team and the international attention he'll bring isn't gonna affect your teams value is shocking.
Watch how many jerseys sell in the next few months with his name on it. It will be surprisingly high. That is just the start of the revenue he will bring to a team that happens to be for sale.
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I'm not kidding you. Do you think Yang has a comparible Q-Score as Yao Ming, who was easily the #1 pick in the 2002 draft?

If the Blazers were drafting Cooper Flaggshu #1 tonight, this would be a worthy conversation.

Bookmark this post and lets see if the new owners talk about the cultural value of Yang when they purchase the franchise.
 
cheesehoff said:
Are you kidding?!
When Yao retired and Morey made a comment against the Chinese gov't, the league lost hundreds of millions of dollars. It was even discussed in the link in this thread.
This decision is 100% about money. I'd be willing to bet the decision was made for Cronin by the higher ups.
Yang is seen as a huge marketing rep in China. They have nobody else in the league. Basketball is a quickly rising sport in China and they spend a lot of money on training all the way down to grade schoolers.
The team is currently for sale and would probably sell for a relatively low number for an NBA team. But, when you realize that having the only player from an extremely heavily populated country and it doesn't take much smarts to know he is a significant asset.
The article talked about Yao and Shaq's first game against each other. It drew over 200 million viewers in China. The superbowl drew 130 million viewers.
To think that having a young, popular Chinese player on your team and the international attention he'll bring isn't gonna affect your teams value is shocking.
Watch how many jerseys sell in the next few months with his name on it. It will be surprisingly high. That is just the start of the revenue he will bring to a team that happens to be for sale.
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I don't know if I buy this. Yang was going to get drafted by some NBA team. The Blazers aren't a popular franchise in China. If the NBA really wanted to maximize China revenue they would have put him on the Lakers or some franchise that has a following there. Bet most of China doesn't even know the Blazers are an NBA team.
 
cheesehoff said:
Are you kidding?!
When Yao retired and Morey made a comment against the Chinese gov't, the league lost hundreds of millions of dollars. It was even discussed in the link in this thread.
This decision is 100% about money. I'd be willing to bet the decision was made for Cronin by the higher ups.
Yang is seen as a huge marketing rep in China. They have nobody else in the league. Basketball is a quickly rising sport in China and they spend a lot of money on training all the way down to grade schoolers.
The team is currently for sale and would probably sell for a relatively low number for an NBA team. But, when you realize that having the only player from an extremely heavily populated country and it doesn't take much smarts to know he is a significant asset.
The article talked about Yao and Shaq's first game against each other. It drew over 200 million viewers in China. The superbowl drew 130 million viewers.
To think that having a young, popular Chinese player on your team and the international attention he'll bring isn't gonna affect your teams value is shocking.
Watch how many jerseys sell in the next few months with his name on it. It will be surprisingly high. That is just the start of the revenue he will bring to a team that happens to be for sale.
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Tince said:
I'm not kidding you. Do you think Yang has a comparible Q-Score as Yao Ming, who was easily the #1 pick in the 2002 draft?

If the Blazers were drafting Cooper Flaggshu #1 tonight, this would be a worthy conversation.

Bookmark this post and lets see if the new owners talk about the cultural value of Yang when they purchase the franchise.
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Yeah not sure if your talking about Blazers revenue or NBA revenue. Blazers probably wouldn't care too much if at all about increasing NBA revenue - which they only get 1/30th of. A lot of the things mentioned above are NBA revenue and not directly going to the Blazers.
 
Ed O said:
I am done with the draft and going to stop thinking about the Blazers tonight, but I gotta say: this is the kind of pick that, in any league made by any team, I would laugh at. I don't care if my team is unorthodox and even if they're laughed at... as long as they have success and/or are building for the future. I have seen Detroit and Houston and lots of other shitty teams do that the last few years (lose but build). Heck, I even see Washington clearing out salary and accumulating picks.

This has been a bad, bad couple of days for the franchise and my Blazers fandom.
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Houston traded their youth for old man KD. And Detroit got good by signing vets like Beasley, THJ, and Tobias Harris.
 
You all realize he will be an All Star within 5 years if he is even just solid ... the China vote might push him in alone so solid chance the Blazers have an All Star so maybe Cronin is not a complete idiot ... then I woke up from my fever dream and realize Cronin is even dumber then I thought - he did the impossible did not think that was possible to think he was more stupid but he did it.

Also if the Blazers get a new sponsor ( China Biz ) worth a lot then we know who really made this pick -- Bert FUCKING Kolde so more money would be brought in. -- this might be a crazy thought but it might make more sense then any other reason to this point.
 
Strenuus said:
Join me, brothers, as more and more of you see the light that is the ineptitude and disrespectfulness of this organization towards its fans.

Theres light refreshments. Please, converse amongst yourselves.
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You were against our winning last year but if we had won three more games, we would’ve gotten Cooper Flagg!
 
Boise Blazer said:
But again, as someone else mentioned in the BEST case scenario we trade Ayton and Williams and Yang breaks out and is awesome. So then our 7th pick from last year end ups on the bench? It makes no sense.
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If you pick two big men in successive drafts and one is a superstar, that’s a good thing, right?
 
Chris Craig said:


Yang was the target from the beginning

He was the guy

Cronin says he was the best player available

They weren't comfortable going further back than #16 for fear another team would poach him.

We could very well go into next season with 5 centers.
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If he was the best player available (in their opinion) then I'm glad we took him.
 
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SharpesTriumph said:
Yeah that makes this trade super perplexing. There aren't 48mpg for lumbering centers in today's game. It's about a 32mpg position. Against some teams that go small it's 20mpg. Literally just saw this in the finals where Hartenstein was benched. The Blazers now have two lumbering centers to share Hartensteins one backup role.

So now Clingan and Yang are going to average between 10-16mpg? Maybe some games 20 mpg?

Id be ok with the Blazers getting a center that complemented Clingan skill set. These guys not only can't share the floor together - they have zero possibly center role outside a drop coverage lumbering big.

This makes zero sense in the 2025 NBA.

That the Blazers used 100% of their lottery picks post Dame on this one specialized role? Doesn't make any sense.
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Need size to hang with Wemby and Chet. They’re the future.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
I haven't read through this thread in full because I was driving, but another thing to consider. How does Clingan feel about this? Not exactly a stamp of confidence to draft another Center in the first round the year after a decent rookie year.
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We need the best assets possible. Position doesn't matter.

If they think this guy is going to be a more valuable NBA player than anybody else on board then you take him and you don't worry about what any other player thinks.
 
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