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If for some reason AD is traded to the Bucks can we get in on it to get Middleton out of the deal?
 
TBpup said:
I would think having a roster of Dame/Nurk/AD would be very attractive to a new owner and help the future sale.
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Possibly, but if that trade results in AD leaving in 2020 and Dame maybe considering leaving in 2021 then you just made the team way less valuable.

To be clear I'm talking strictly from a potential buyer point of view. I'm not convinced they'd make a risk like that.

I think we're thinking about it too much like fans.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
I still think the Blazers should roll the dice and go get him even if he might leave. Who knows if they could put together a package NO would want but that would add some excitement for the next two playoffs.
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Just a thought? I don't even know if it is at all realistic at all. But what if the Blazers got Davis and looked at what he did with the team over the remainder of the season. If things were awesome then great but if not wouldn't they still be able to trade him this summer and pick up some pieces that would make the team better than it is now?
 
TBpup said:
What player does the Lakers/Knicks/Clippers/Bucks have that comes close to what CJ does....even more so when he plays without Dame?
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Strenuus said:
Ouch. Guess Dame isn't a star and the stigma of Portland reigns.
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It's frustrating how we are never even in discussion. CJ is a better piece than anything these other teams could offer.

Middleton gets close but he doesn't make nearly enough on his own and will be a UFA in 30 games. Same with Tobias. Have to get the feeling that Clips and Bucks were token teams just to make it look like Lakers isn't the obvious play. Knicks, too, don't have anything to offer now before the lottery.

This is obviously coming from Rich Paul.
 
Strenuus said:
Ouch. Guess Dame isn't a star and the stigma of Portland reigns.
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Which is obviously a dumb and incorrect thought (not that you think that way, but that clearly is part of the notion around the league). Dame is one of four current NBA players players signed to Adidas with a signature shoe. He is a 4-time AS, he's been on how many All-NBA teams, etc....
 
yuyuza1 said:
CJ is a better piece than anything these other teams could offer.
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So now CJ is better than anything these teams have to offer. Not saying it isn't true but he gets little respect around this place.
 
TBpup said:
What player does the Lakers/Knicks/Clippers/Bucks have that comes close to what CJ does....even more so when he plays without Dame?
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Clippers could offer Tobias Harris, Montrezl Harrell, and one of their rookies. It would be tight but they could still get enough for a max contract I believe. However from the Pelicans view Harris could bounce after the season and that trade would look horrible.

Knicks don't have much to offer other than if they get lucky in the lottery, certainly not right now though other than Ntilikina, Knox, an expiring, and a couple of their future 1sts they have and the two Mavs ones.

Lakers offers are overrated in my opinion.

Bucks have the same problem as the Clippers. The most obvious player would be Middleton but he can also leave after this year. So it would have to be something like Brogdon, Maker, DiVencenzo, and Hill when his contract becomes eligible to trade in a few days. They've traded away a couple future 1sts already so it would be hard to include those too.

If they don't like the Lakers offers none of these other teams have the right pieces if I'm the Pelicans.
 
hoopsjock said:
Clippers could offer Tobias Harris, Montrezl Harrell, and one of their rookies. It would be tight but they could still get enough for a max contract I believe. However from the Pelicans view Harris could bounce after the season and that trade would look horrible.

Knicks don't have much to offer other than if they get lucky in the lottery, certainly not right now though other than Ntilikina, Knox, an expiring, and a couple of their future 1sts they have and the two Mavs ones.

Lakers offers are overrated in my opinion.

Bucks have the same problem as the Clippers. The most obvious player would be Middleton but he can also leave after this year. So it would have to be something like Brogdon, Maker, DiVencenzo, and Hill when his contract becomes eligible to trade in a few days. They've traded away a couple future 1sts already so it would be hard to include those too.

If they don't like the Lakers offers none of these other teams have the right pieces if I'm the Pelicans.
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Sorry, the lakers offer is really really good. If its Ball/Ingram 2 1sts and taking back Hill, the only other packages that might beat that is the number one pick from NY (unlikely) and Tatum (unlikely)
 
hoopsjock said:
I think even most of the people who are hard on CJ acknowledge that if he was running his own team he would be much better.
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Not going to disagree at all with you there. Running his own team though would put him in a position to be doubled every game. He did well last week but players were making shots. I guess it depends on what team and the players around him.
 
OSUBlazerfan said:
Sorry, the lakers offer is really really good. If its Ball/Ingram 2 1sts and taking back Hill, the only other packages that might beat that is the number one pick from NY (unlikely) and Tatum (unlikely)
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That's good? If Ball and Ingram were on any other team than the Lakers that offer wouldn't even come close to being thought of as fair value for AD.

Ball is a PG who in two seasons shoots 38% from the field, 31.5% from 3, and 43.7% on free throws.

Ingram takes advantage of smaller defenders but other than getting by just on his athleticism, he hasn't developed his game at all since coming into the league. He's massively overrated in my opinion.

The 1sts would both end up being crap picks with LeBron and AD on the same team.
 
kjironman1 said:
Not going to disagree at all with you there. Running his own team though would put him in a position to be doubled every game. He did well last week but players were making shots. I guess it depends on what team and the players around him.
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His career numbers are around 26 points, 6 assists, and 5 rebounds in games Dame doesn't play in. He'd be an All-Star with those numbers on a different team.
 
OSUBlazerfan said:
Sorry, the lakers offer is really really good. If its Ball/Ingram 2 1sts and taking back Hill, the only other packages that might beat that is the number one pick from NY (unlikely) and Tatum (unlikely)
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You're not even throwing Kuzma in there? Damn.
 
hoopsjock said:
His career numbers are around 26 points, 6 assists, and 5 rebounds in games Dame doesn't play in. He'd be an All-Star with those numbers on a different team.
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Well again. If he was the main player on a team he would come against a different look defensively. But i can't disagree he would probably do very well. I can pretty much guarantee he won't put up those numbers alone on a different team and certainly he would not be a lock as an All-Star in the west. Not even sure about it in the East? Though i'm sure his chances would greatly improve.
 
First of all why would the Pels be interested in Ball? All annoyance at Ball aside if they are keeping Jrue then why take ask for Ball? And once again you are gaining players that couldnt make the playoffs. If its all about the firsts then we could offer CJ and the same 2 firsts but its not about that.
 
Personally, I always like to see Western Conference players of AD's caliber move their asses to the East so of course I'd like to see him go to either Bucks or Knicks. If not those two, the Clippers. The SALT from Lakers fans would be phenomenal. Guarantee you they'd be calling him bum, injury-prone, loser, etc.
 
yuyuza1 said:
So pretty much LA would be stuck with AD-Bron and not much else without an immediate avenue to improve.

I'd be somewhat OK with it
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Would not be so sure about that. Then you have players taking vets minimum to go play there.
 
Every time I read these tweets of people saying this is the Lakers offer, I think there are probably 8-9 teams (including the Blazers)who could do better... Just because AD won't commit to signing long term, I don't know why teams are so scared to go after him try to win with him and see if he'd resign. It's not like many of those teams are winning a championship without him...
 
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kjironman1 said:
Would not be so sure about that. Then you have players taking vets minimum to go play there.
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Plus, a bunch of cap room this offseason to add a few players BEFORE finding aging vets to sign for small salaries.....
 
B-Roy said:
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So, for the rest of this season..... it'd be LBJ and AD..... Melo would sign. And then a bunch of G Leaguers? Would be odd to watch.

Quality over quantity, FAMS. None of those Lakers players are very enticing to me. If I were a fan of the Pels, I'd quickly realize that ownership and management are not going to do what needs to be done to build a winner. You need some star power, and settling for the Lakers' offer is not bringing any star power back in return. It's settling.

#qualityoverquantityFAMS
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
If I were a fan of the Pels, I'd quickly realize that ownership and management are not going to do what needs to be done to build a winner.
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So Anthony Davis wanting out after Cousins left for GS means the management is not doing what it needs to do. Davis is going to leave. The Management is shopping him to get the most they can. I would say that is the best they can do.
 
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