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I'm not buying that OKC would just take on salary for that TPE they have. Their tax payment would balloon to nearly 50 more mil with just a Harkless addition. They're a repeater. Crazy penalties.

Teams usually just let it expire. Can’t remember the last time a significant sized TPE was used. Stupid us for thinking Olshey was going to use the Crabbe one

Shams latest.

Inside Pass: Only six sellers so far, but several other teams on the bubble with the NBA trade deadline looming https://theathletic.com/780771/2019...e-bubble-with-the-nba-trade-deadline-looming/
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The NBA trade deadline is a little over two weeks away, but NBA executives and players league-wide have noticed one dramatic factor in the trade market. Among the 30 teams, there have been just five sellers on the trade market: Four in the Eastern Conference (Atlanta, New York, Cleveland and Chicago) and one in the Western Conference (Phoenix) and possibly a second in Memphis. For everyone else, the remaining 11 teams in the East and 14 teams in the West, the playoffs have been within sight — speaking to the parity across the league.

“It’s supply-and-demand,” one front-office official told The Athletic. “You have most teams still trying to make the playoffs, and so few sellers.”

However, this next week to 10 days will dictate the remaining sellers and buyers ahead of the Feb. 7 trade deadline.

The Washington Wizards and Orlando Magic are still competing for a playoff berth, but both teams are preparing for the deadline with the awareness their moves will be made based upon whether the team is trending upward or down as Feb. 7 approaches, sources said.

Wizards star guard Bradley Beal is not going anywhere, which Washington has made adamantly clear, league sources told The Athletic. Depending on how the next week to two weeks shape up, the Wizards could look more aggressively toward moving Otto Porter. The Utah Jazz have been an interested suitor for Porter, league sources said. Beal has helped lead the Wizards to seven wins in their past 10 games, carrying a squad that lost All-Star John Wall to season-ending heel surgery before the New Year.

Similarly, the Charlotte Hornets are competing for a playoff berth, have Kemba Walker as the face of their franchise and are posited to have Walker representing the organization when the city hosts All-Star Weekend. Even last summer, several teams approached the Hornets on Walker, but were informed that he is off the table. Hornets owner Michael Jordan has a desire to re-sign Walker and keep the two-time All-Star in Charlotte, sources said.

Nevertheless, teams have still tested the Hornets. In recent weeks, the Dallas Mavericks had interest in Walker and inquired on him, but the Hornets stated they were keeping Walker and wanted him to remain a Hornet, league sources told The Athletic.

Point guard Dennis Smith Jr. and the Mavericks had been working to accommodate a trade for him, but receiving equal value for a talented, former No. 9 overall pick just one year into his four-year rookie-scale contract is nearly impossible. The Mavericks discussed Smith deals with several teams, including Orlando, New York and the L.A. Lakers, league sources said.

Both sides needed to reunite, however, and Dallas head coach Rick Carlisle apologized to Smith on a phone conversation on Sunday and expressed remorse over the situation, sources said. Fences needed to be mended, and Smith returned to the Mavericks for Tuesday’s home game against the Los Angeles Clippers and the sides will see how the new reuniting period goes.

The Memphis Grizzlies, on the other hand, have started to position themselves as sellers on the market.

After meeting with franchise stars Marc Gasol and Mike Conley Jr. last week in Memphis to discuss the future of the team, owner Grizzlies controlling owner Robert Pera informed them that the franchise would accept trade calls on them, league sources said. This has been brewing for weeks, with the Grizzlies losing 23 of their past 30 games since beginning the campaign 12-5. The Grizzlies maintain this will be a due diligence process on both. And yet team officials preached to Grizzlies players on Tuesday that the franchise is committed toward winning and to tune out any trade noise, sources said.

The Jimmy Butler trade occurred in November, Milwaukee was able to get a difference-making player in George Hill in early December and Trevor Ariza was moved to the Washington Wizards with Kelly Oubre Jr. going to Phoenix in mid-December. We’ve seen the early stages of what will be a ferocious pursuit of Anthony Davis should he inform the New Orleans Pelicans of a mindset that he doesn’t plan to be with the franchise long-term.

Davis will see a hand specialist with the fear of an avulsion fracture in his left index finger, his agent Rich Paul told The Athletic. If confirmed, Davis will likely miss 2-to-4 weeks. Davis has yet to reach the point this season where he will request a trade, but a full evaluation of his seven seasons in New Orleans likely will come in the offseason.

So if Davis, Beal and Walker are off the table, who is left? There are expected to be several trades on the periphery, league executives say, but will there be a blockbuster? Talks will pick up over the next couple weeks. Teams have scenarios on the board right now, evaluating possibilities — most of which likely gaining traction in the final week.

More notes from around the league
Atlanta Hawks

The Hawks have engaged with teams on veteran players Kent Bazemore and Dewayne Dedmon, but also have discussed forward Taurean Prince, league sources said. In his third season, Prince is averaging 14.1 points and 4.1 rebounds. Also worth monitoring: guard Tyler Dorsey. Dorsey chose to play for the Hawks’ G League affiliate, Erie, last Wednesday in order to receive more playing time and repetition on the court. Dorsey posted 36 points, 13 rebounds and five assists in 43 minutes in a victory for Erie, using the G League to showcase himself ahead of the trade deadline.

Chicago Bulls

The Bulls and Knicks have discussed scenarios to send Jabari Parker to New York, but both sides have wanted to involve a third team to take center Enes Kanter — which has not appeared yet, league sources said. The team also is in no rush to release the contract of Carmelo Anthony.

Cleveland Cavaliers

Shooting guard Rodney Hood is garnering interest from several teams, and has a no-trade clause on the one-year, $3.4 million qualifying offer he signed with the Cavaliers before the season. Teams such as New Orleans, Oklahoma City and Milwaukee have looked into wing help. For a Cavaliers team with heavy salaries throughout the roster, Hood has emerged as a targeted piece.

Memphis Grizzlies

The Grizzlies have attempted to engage several teams in a deal to move Chandler Parsons — most notably the Atlanta Hawks, league sources said. The sides have yet to build the necessary traction toward a trade. The move would free Parsons from Memphis, which has decided not to play him even though he has been cleared for basketball since Dec. 21. Expect forward JaMychal Green to attract significant interest entering the deadline.

Oklahoma City Thunder

The Thunder will explore their options to use their $10.7 million trade exception, including pursuing shooting small/power forwards, sources said.

Philadelphia 76ers

The 76ers are scouring the market for a wing shooter and center, league sources said.

Sacramento Kings

The Kings’ plan remains: Explore deals to build momentum, but also value picks and promote winning and culture. Kings general manager Vlade Divac and assistant GM Brandon Williams have emphasized maintaining cap flexibility.


Btw I can already see it now:

Olshey: Look Brooke, it was a sellers market and we didn’t want to sacrifice assets that we believe in. we did our best though and there will be more flexibility in the summer..anyways Brooke... teams are jealous of our backcourt *olshey laugh*

FART.
 
Trade machine indicates that Harkless would fit into OKC's trade exception. If they're looking for a 3/4, and we're looking to shed salary, might that be a way to go?
We are? Giving OKC Harkless for free without anything in return would piss Damian off.
Okay, bear with me because I'm not saying I would do this and I don't think OKC would take on that much luxury tax for Harkless but.........

Olshey goes to Dame and tells him we have an opportunity to get under the luxury tax, open up a roster spot, and be in a better financial position to add talent this summer. Dame asks who is being traded and Olshey says Moe to the Thunder which pisses off Dame. However, Olshey says the reason we are opening up a roster spot is that we are getting Carmelo Anthony with our trade exception from the Bulls. Dame immediately gets excited because he still thinks Melo is a "star".

Like I mentioned, we trade Harkless for Melo (full circle) and get under the luxury tax while opening up the full-MLE this summer. I think Dame would be okay with that. We could also still make a trade with the Hawks or Magic to land Ross or Prince to makeup for losing good Harkless.
 
These are current tax teams:

OKC- 22 mil
GSW- 21 mil
TOR- 16 mil
POR- 7.9 mil
HOU- 7.6 mil
MIA- 6.3 mil
WAS- 5.6 mil
BOS- 3.8 mil

Only SAC has actual caproom to make unbalanced trades or take on salary. But it is substantial at 11 mil,

I'm guessing WAS and MIA will try like hell to shed some salary. A simple Ellington dump should get MIA there. WAS needs to dump a Morris twin or Howard plus scrub to get there.
 
And taking it one step further. Here are the current trade exceptions that are still active:

Denver -14 mil, and 13 mil (Faried/Chandler)
OKC- 11 mil
CHA- 8 mil
DET- 7 mil

Our Vonleh one is for 3.5.

Don't think any of these will be used.
 
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Phoenix saves about $24M, minus whatever they end up paying the first rounder. Could swap Leonard for Harkless but I went with Meyers because Phoenix doesn’t have a center under contract next season outside of Ayton. It would also open up more minutes for Bridges, Oubre, and Jackson.
 
Knowing Neil Olshey, we’ll probably going to end up with Melo and another guy from the G-League
 
I don’t know what’s going to happen but there isn’t a more obvious move to me than attaching a pick to Meyers. Meyers is fucking with Zach’s development and Portland needs to keep summer flexibility in mind as well. Leonard’s improvement is cool, and should make him easier to move. We’ve got more important things to worry about.
 
I don’t know what’s going to happen but there isn’t a more obvious move to me than attaching a pick to Meyers. Meyers is fucking with Zach’s development and Portland needs to keep summer flexibility in mind as well. Leonard’s improvement is cool, and should make him easier to move. We’ve got more important things to worry about.

That would be such a waste of pick.
 
That would be such a waste of pick.

Once again, no it wouldn’t. Portland would almost double the amount they could offer someone in free agency. You can land a pretty impactful player for near $10M per.
 
Once again, no it wouldn’t. Portland would almost double the amount they could offer someone in free agency. You can land a pretty impactful player for near $10M per.


Here are some FAs that could interest Portland should they have the full MLE

- Wes Matthews
- Tyreke Evans
- JJ Redick
- Terrence Ross
- Rudy Gay
- Jabari Parker
- JaMychal Green
- Garrett Temple
- Danny Green
- Enes Kanter
- Bobby Portis
- Brook Lopez
- Morris twins
- Nikola Mirotic
- Jeremy Lamb
- Reggie Bullock
- Noah Vonleh
- Thaddeus Young
- Trevor Ariza
- Kelly Oubre
- Demarre Carroll
- Taj Gibson
- Alec Burks
- Rodney Hood
- Bojan Bogdanovic

Obviously some of these will get paid more, some maybe even less, but I’d probably take all these guys over Meyers and a late first.
 
That would be such a waste of pick.

debatable

Portland will have a pick in the 20's. The last five times they've added a player with a pick in the 20's has been:

22 Victor Claver
22 Elliot Williams
21 Nolan Smith
26 Caleb Swanigan
24 Anfernee Simons

that's not a good endorsement for keeping that pick. Portland is in, or at least should be in, win now mode, not stockpile projects mode

sure, if the Blazers can use that pick as extra leverage for a much larger trade, that would be better. But there's a ton of reason to be skeptical about the front office's ability and willingness to execute a larger trade. There's no reason at all to be skeptical about how avoiding a 2nd year of luxury tax will be a priority this summer

I'd prefer if it was Turner leaving but a late 1st is unlikely to be enough incentive to make Turner moveable, not with major salary relief coming back
 
Here are some FAs that could interest Portland should they have the full MLE

- Wes Matthews
- Tyreke Evans
- JJ Redick
- Terrence Ross
- Rudy Gay
- Jabari Parker
- JaMychal Green
- Garrett Temple
- Danny Green
- Enes Kanter
- Bobby Portis
- Brook Lopez
- Morris twins
- Nikola Mirotic
- Jeremy Lamb
- Reggie Bullock
- Noah Vonleh
- Thaddeus Young
- Trevor Ariza
- Kelly Oubre
- Demarre Carroll
- Taj Gibson
- Alec Burks
- Rodney Hood
- Bojan Bogdanovic

Obviously some of these will get paid more, some maybe even less, but I’d probably take all these guys over Meyers and a late first.

I’d not want some of them for free here to be honest.

How much and when do we need to drop in salary to be able to offer full MLE?
 
I’d not want some of them for free here to be honest.

How much and when do we need to drop in salary to be able to offer full MLE?
We'd have to be far enough under the tax apron to use the full-MLE but that would also hard cap us at the apron so we couldn't add salary for any reason during next season, not even a minimum contract.

As an important side note, many of those guys on the list would come with bird rights too so for example if we traded Leonard and a 1st for Terrance Ross (not advocating for that) we could re-sign him for any amount and wouldn't have to use the MLE to do so if he wanted to stay (same with Aminu). Of course re-signing him would likely mean we'd be over the tax and could only use the tax-MLE.
 
Okay, bear with me because I'm not saying I would do this and I don't think OKC would take on that much luxury tax for Harkless but.........

Olshey goes to Dame and tells him we have an opportunity to get under the luxury tax, open up a roster spot, and be in a better financial position to add talent this summer. Dame asks who is being traded and Olshey says Moe to the Thunder which pisses off Dame. However, Olshey says the reason we are opening up a roster spot is that we are getting Carmelo Anthony with our trade exception from the Bulls. Dame immediately gets excited because he still thinks Melo is a "star".

Like I mentioned, we trade Harkless for Melo (full circle) and get under the luxury tax while opening up the full-MLE this summer. I think Dame would be okay with that. We could also still make a trade with the Hawks or Magic to land Ross or Prince to makeup for losing good Harkless.
I would give that serious consideration, I like MO but he's like a mushroom and AFA, Jake & Turner could also play 3. Going after a Ross and/or Prince as you point out would offset as well.
 
I’d not want some of them for free here to be honest.

How much and when do we need to drop in salary to be able to offer full MLE?
The luxury tax next season is expected to be around $132 million making the apron at $138 million.

Right now we are at $125,694,465 with 10 players. That doesn't include Aminu, Layman, Baldwin, Curry, Stauskas, or our 1st round pick. Knocking the contract of Turner, Leonard, or Harkless off of that number gives us a lot better shot of using the full-MLE while retaining guys like Aminu and Layman. Otherwise we are stuck with a very similar roster.

I am in favor of using the 1st only if it brings back someone that will help us next year too like getting Prince from Atlanta who still has a year left on his deal.
 
That would be such a waste of pick.

My default position has always been that draft picks are gold. As I look at the players predicted to go in the 20s in this draft...I'm just not seeing it. We don't need another Swanigan, and frankly, I don't want another Simons. With the full MLE we at least have the chance to bring in a useful vet.
 
Here are some FAs that could interest Portland should they have the full MLE

- Wes Matthews
- Tyreke Evans
- JJ Redick
- Terrence Ross
- Rudy Gay
- Jabari Parker
- JaMychal Green
- Garrett Temple
- Danny Green
- Enes Kanter
- Bobby Portis
- Brook Lopez
- Morris twins
- Nikola Mirotic
- Jeremy Lamb
- Reggie Bullock
- Noah Vonleh
- Thaddeus Young
- Trevor Ariza
- Kelly Oubre
- Demarre Carroll
- Taj Gibson
- Alec Burks
- Rodney Hood
- Bojan Bogdanovic

Obviously some of these will get paid more, some maybe even less, but I’d probably take all these guys over Meyers and a late first.
What are tax implications if we sign soneone for full MLE in the summer?
 
What are tax implications if we sign soneone for full MLE in the summer?

Having the full MLE means not being in the luxury tax. But I’m not an expert on the cap so I don’t want to talk like I am.
 
What are tax implications if we sign soneone for full MLE in the summer?
Using the Full-MLE basically imposes a hard cap at the tax apron. There is some wiggle room if we didn't use the Bi-Annual Exception but that would mean every other player we signed would have to be for the minimum.

So in my example above tax line is supposed to be $132 million next year making the apron around $138 million. The Blazers couldn't go over that $138 million if they get hard capped for any reason. Clearing Leonard or Harkless off our books gives us enough room to potentially keep Aminu and/or Layman (if we wanted to keep those guys) and sign someone to the Full-MLE. If we chose to only use the Tax-MLE we can't get as good of a player (see last summer) but at the same time there is no hard cap and we can go as far into the tax as Jody would allow.
 
Harkless + Leonard + Aminu + POR 2019 1st for
Kanter + Lee + Vonleh
 
Blake should sue Clippers for sending him there.
 
Harkless + Leonard + Aminu + POR 2019 1st for
Kanter + Lee + Vonleh

Awful deal. Kanter is bad and expires, Lee is not good and does not expire, we just paid to send Vonleh away and he expires anyway.

It does not save us money either and we send the pick away.
 
Casey was adamant in the most recent podcast saying the team will add money this year and won't try to save it. He's prolly not even considering getting the MLE, but still. He did say the motivation won't be dumping $ this deadline.


Awful deal. Kanter is bad and expires, Lee is not good and does not expire, we just paid to send Vonleh away and he expires anyway.

It does not save us money either and we send the pick away.
It does. In the summer, it gets us out of the tax for next year giving us the full MLE.
 
Casey was adamant in the most recent podcast saying the team will add money this year and won't try to save it. He's prolly not even considering getting the MLE, but still. He did say the motivation won't be dumping $ this deadline.



It does. In the summer, it gets us out of the tax for next year giving us the full MLE.

Casey said that? That’s encouraging, he usually keeps it pretty cautious.
 
Please save Blake



Living in LA I have seen a lot of Blake's interviews. With age comes maturity. He has been a dickhead in the past and his contract sucks, but what the hell.
If Detroit wants to escape that contract, and they should based on their record in the East, then I would help them out. ET, Leonard, Aminu, Simons (or Trent), and a 1st. He is still only 29 years old.....

Maybe even substitute in Collins into the deal
 
If Detroit wants to escape that contract, and they should based on their record in the East, then I would help them out. ET, Leonard, Aminu, Simons (or Trent), and a 1st. He is still only 29 years old.....

Maybe even substitute in Collins into the deal
They don't. I wish they did, but they don't. They know he's their best player by far, and they're going to do their damnedest to build around him.
 
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