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Natebishop3 said:
That was incorrect. He was getting those stats from Basketball-Reference and they don't match what was on the actual G League website.
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Buddy, I’m lazy, so I’m not gonna do the “sources” thing but anyone who has watched the guy knows he makes Anfernee Simons look like Kawhi Leonard. He is a complete ghost on defense. Just Google around.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
The Ignite also aren't trying to win games, their only for developing and showcasing talent.
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Apparently not interested in developing or showcasing defensive talent because Scoot allows a layup line to occur
 
KeepOnRollin said:
You think these offers are realistic? Already are reports that Bridges can't be had.
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"I will not negotiate" is a classic negotiation tactic. Forces the other side to come in with better offers.
 
Teams like the Ignite are co-marketing certain players as a way to sell the G league option to youngsters. They hype guys like Scoot and last year they had Daniels hyped as well.
 
There's a difference between playing poor defense and only being able to play poor defense. Scoot has the athleticism to be a good defender on both guard positions.
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Here's one of Scoot's blocked shots. Scoot had 3 blocked shots and 1 steal in this game.

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blazerfan11 said:
There's a difference between playing poor defense and only being able to play poor defense. Scoot has the athleticism to be a good defender on both guard positions.
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That’s the same excuse we have heard about dame for years
 
blazerfan11 said:
There's a difference between playing poor defense and only being able to play poor defense. Scoot has the athleticism to be a good defender on both guard positions.
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Anfernee Simons also has the athleticism to be a good defender. Is he a good defender?

BTW - playing poor defense when you have the ability to not play poor defense is a bigger knock than just sucking on defense.
 
Predator said:
Anfernee Simons also has the athleticism to be a good defender. Is he a good defender?

BTW - playing poor defense when you have the ability to not play poor defense is a bigger knock than just sucking on defense.
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Ant is in a 1's body guarding 2's.

Apples and oranges.
 
Scoot Henderson is one of the few players from the 2023 NBA Draft who has all the tools to reach NBA superstardom.

"When it comes to playmaking, there isn’t anyone better in the 2023 NBA Draft class than Henderson. This year, Henderson averaged 6.8 assists and 3.4 turnovers. Henderson has been regularly ridiculed for his turnovers, and some have gone as far to say he hasn’t improved as a playmaker at all, which makes me question what games I was watching.

This season, Henderson had an assist rate of 29.8 and an assist-to-turnover ratio of 1.98. Obviously, it isn’t a one-to-one comparison, but looking at the league can give us a decent benchmark of who those numbers compare to. His assist rate was higher than that of Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, De’Aaron Fox, and Jalen Brunson, while his assist-to-turnover ratio was higher than that of Gilgeous-Alexander, Bradley Beal, and Steph Curry. Even among his peers in the G-League, Henderson had the seventh-best assist rate among players with a usage rate of at least 20 who had played at least 15 games. Oh, and he’s a teenager going against pros. Are we really going to underestimate what these Ignite prospects have done against grown men again?

Even ignoring the numbers, Henderson’s playmaking tape is absurd, which again makes me question where the disconnect comes in those who view it as a skill that hasn’t progressed. My hypothesis is that it is due to Henderson reining back the flashy, out-of-control assists we saw in year one in favor of further developing the more nuanced aspects of his playmaking.

In year one, Henderson’s overall possessions and assists generated 1.134 points per possession (PPP), which ranked in the 28th percentile, per Synergy. In the halfcourt, this number was 1.090 PPP (23rd percentile. In year two, though, Henderson overall generated 1.178 PPP (60th percentile) and 1.123 PPP (55th percentile) in the halfcourt. Year one’s assists may have been more prone to the highlight mix, but year two’s assists were much more effective."
 
AmirIcon said:
Ant is in a 1's body guarding 2's.

Apples and oranges.
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that makes no sense...at all, at least not to me. He's not a terrible defender because his guys are bigger; he's a terrible defender because he has poor lateral mobility, and even worse reaction and reflex. He's constantly beat off the dribble and he's too easily re-directed by screens and picks. That won't change if he's guarding Ja Morant rather than Desmond Bane; or De'Aaron Fox rather than Kevin Heuter; or Jamal Murray rather than KCP. He'd actually get beat worse and more often than he already does
 
wizenheimer said:
that makes no sense...at all, at least not to me. He's not a terrible defender because his guys are bigger; he's a terrible defender because he has poor lateral mobility, and even worse reaction and reflex. He's constantly beat off the dribble and he's too easily re-directed by screens and picks. That won't change if he's guarding Ja Morant rather than Desmond Bane; or De'Aaron Fox rather than Kevin Heuter; or Jamal Murray rather than KCP. He'd actually get beat worse and more often than he already does
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We agree that he's bad either way. Point guards aren't usually known for their defense. If he was a 1, he wouldn't be regarded as being so bad on D.
 
AmirIcon said:
We agree that he's bad either way. Point guards aren't usually known for their defense. If he was a 1, he wouldn't be regarded as being so bad on D.
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but he's horrible at defending speed and change of direction, and PG's are faster and shiftier. He'd get beat even more often defending PG's...

...unless you're saying the standards for gauging PG defense are lower?...which actually might be true after PG's like Archibald, Steve Nash, Harden, Curry, Westbrook, Dame, etc

on the other hand: Chris Paul, Isiah Thomas, Gary Payton, Don Buse, John Stockton, Oscar, Rondo, Terry Porter, Lowry....a lot of PG's have been pretty good at defense. Of course, dynamic scoring and solid play-making in a PG covers a lot of sins
 
when it comes to if Dame & Scoot can co-exist, it's debatable. If Scoot has the other-worldly talent his advocates are claiming I'd think coexistence would be possible, especially if Scoot is a good enough passer to find Dame in good scoring opportunities.

can't have Dame + Ant + Scoot on the same team though and it's laughable to choose Ant over Dame, IMO
 
AmirIcon said:
Ant is in a 1's body guarding 2's.

Apples and oranges.
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Ant gets torched by PGs too.

Conveniently forgetting when he played PG?

Love how people use his stats when Dame is out, but all of a sudden don’t remember he was a ghost on defense.

Also, just because you’re playing against a bigger guy or whatever doesn’t automatically make your defense bad.

What makes your defense bad is providing little-to-no resistance allowing people straight line drives to the hoop OR failing to contest shots OR getting killed on screens.

A bigger guy can back you down or shoot over the top, that’s not “bad defense” nor is it Ants problem.

So, no, not apples to oranges.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Question from Locked on: what do you say to people who look at Scoot's game and they go "hey you take away all of those powerful highlight dunks and you actually have a flawed offensive player"

Athletic: If you watched a lot of his tape this year, I understand that take. I think he was very willing to settle in the mid range this season a little bit more than what you'd like to see. I think a lot of those people will often bring up the low free throw rate, and not understand that you take one free throw per opportunity instead of two in the G League. So Scoot this year, I think as an 18 year old for 50% of the season, I think he was top 30 in terms of free throw rate this year in the G League. So I'm not as worried about that as some people seem to be. I think the goal for Scoot this year was to get through this season unscathed in a real way, and he dealt with some injuries through the course of the year. He got drilled in the face and ended up having to wear a mask at times. He had a lower leg injury at some point that had him missing some time. He had some little nicks and things. Not being injury prone or anything like that. He just got bumped and got hit the wrong way and sometimes you end up in a circumstance. The goal of the G League Ignite is not necessarily to win games, and your personal goal is to essentially get through the season unscathed, you probably end up settling more than you would normally.
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I'd be hitting guys all the time too, if I knew they would only get one free throw out of it!
 
Predator said:
Ant gets torched by PGs too.

Conveniently forgetting when he played PG?

Love how people use his stats when Dame is out, but all of a sudden don’t remember he was a ghost on defense.

Also, just because you’re playing against a bigger guy or whatever doesn’t automatically make your defense bad.

What makes your defense bad is providing little-to-no resistance allowing people straight line drives to the hoop OR failing to contest shots OR getting killed on screens.

A bigger guy can back you down or shoot over the top, that’s not “bad defense” nor is it Ants problem.

So, no, not apples to oranges.
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Most PGs aren't expected to be stellar on defense. If he was a 1, he wouldn't have the reputation he does now.

So, yeah, apples and oranges.
 
I can't wait for the leaks to come out on how the workout was perceived. Scoot looked happy to be in the building. That in and of itself is important.
 
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