OT An issue nobody talks about in this country

[Cippy91]

I don't understand this mindset.... how will we ever address violence in general if we don't talk about it? And how can we talk about it if we can only share our opinions about violence against people of our same race? I just think it's the wrong way of looking at things.

I'm curious about that 84% of white on white crime..... does that include suicides? Domestic violence? I know that a large portion of gun violence in general is from suicides, which is terribly sad, but I also think it changes the way we should look at gun violence.

The best way to address violence is to look at the cause. Not all violence is caused by the same thing. I suspect that gang violence can really be traced back to the war on drugs, which is a whole other issue in and of itself. If drugs were legalized, how much of that violence would go down? The war on drugs is a horrible thing that has affected a great many people.

Our country has gotten involved in global politics because of genocide. We interceded in Somalia. We went to Serbia. We get involved when there is senseless killing going on. Why can't we do it in our own country? Was it "whitesplaining" when we sent troops to Somalia? Were we whitesplaining to the Somali warlords who were preventing aid from getting to starving people? Sometimes an issue is bigger than black and white, and to disregard someone's opinion (if it is a constructive one) simply because they're white is silly to me, and not productive.

The issue with him bringing up white violence is nobody is denying it. Yeah no shit, white people make up what? 70 percent of America? don't you think it's kind of alarming that blacks make up 13 percent and there is that much black on black crime going on? Dviss is what we call a a victim. One of those dudes that has white friends that constantly tell him how he is a victim of society and all this shit, hence why he used the word whitesplaining. It's the type of shit that has brainwashed him thinking a white dude like me can't have an opinion on black issues and if I do have an opinion, I am just the fucking worst. Get a grip, have a conversation without tripping out.

Could you fucking imagine if a black person was talking about some white issue and I came in like "I don't need you to fucking blacksplain me, you are an oppressor, etc....

for fucks sake

 

[Cippy91]

No one talks about? As dviss said, it is very much talked about. I see people like Joy-Ann Reid on her program talking about it. I hear Black Lives Matter, yes, talking about it. So someone who does not follow a discussion claims it isn't happening but he is an expert? I don't blame dviss for being pissed off.

Related: headline in today's SF Chronicle: Study shows Oakland Police more polite to whites.
I'm really astonished.

We are talking about Oakland...

This mentality is retarded. I know that racist and bad cops exist, they totally do, but you gotta remember man, cops have a hard fucking job and they probably get treated like dog shit in these neighborhoods, so I mean it makes sense. It doesn't take a god damn genius to figure out some of these things

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Would you buttfaces quit chasing him off? I don't agree with a million things he says but I may not seem like it but I'm trying to figure out what whitesplaining really means. I think I get it partly. I think.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I never hear anybody talk about how bad this is every year.

so, if people you know dont talk about something, it doesnt exist? logical.

Why doesn't the black lives matter group talk about it?

Do you think they dont protest enough? That certainly is a fresh take on the subject lol.

blm isn’t just about the loss of black lives. it’s about the lack of consequences of rampant police brutality. But they should protest more things according to you? And exactly why in the ever loving fuck would they ever care about what you think they should protest?

I mean apparently these black lives do not matter to progressives, they would rather ignore it and stick to the narrative that white cops hunt and gun down unarmed black men.

nonsense. There are countless organizations combating it in chicago. And white cops DO hunt down black men. that is a fact, jack.

even in chicago it seems. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/14/...by-systemic-racism-task-force-finds.html?_r=0

Why isn't this a bigger issue to people?

what people? compared to what? Talk radio nonsense.

it's practically a war zone and nobody is doing anything about it?

there are anti-violence groups in chicago working around the clock. and anti-gang groups. and community outreach. and after school programs. millions and millions of dollars and man hours put towards preventing violence. They are all trying to do something about it. Are you trying to do something about it? Im sure they would appreciate the help as a volunteer.

has the victimization of black people as a whole caused people to not say anything?

LOL. also, there is a rather serious war on christmas going on.

why do black lives matter only matter when the crime is done by a white person?

Every time a black family buries their son or daughter due to gun violence, Im sure there are plenty of people who would beg to differ. maybe you should join an outreach program to help some of them deal with their grief, so you can see firsthand how much the loss of life matters to them.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

i mean, long story short, you dont know what the fuck you are talking about.

weve seen how this ends. remember this guy?

 

[crandc]

We are talking about Oakland...

This mentality is retarded. I know that racist and bad cops exist, they totally do, but you gotta remember man, cops have a hard fucking job and they probably get treated like dog shit in these neighborhoods, so I mean it makes sense. It doesn't take a god damn genius to figure out some of these things

So I am "retarded"? Damn, another slur. And personal insult.

And I am not a man.

Of course without reading the study, or even the article about it, you 1) know what it says and 2) why the difference in courtesy.

Dviss is absolutely right.
And while I am not black I am a woman and have to live with state legislators mansplaining female biology to me ... then making their mansplaining law.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

So I am "retarded"? Damn, another slur. And personal insult.

And I am not a man.

Of course without reading the study, or even the article about it, you 1) know what it says and 2) why the difference in courtesy.

Dviss is absolutely right.
And while I am not black I am a woman and have to live with state legislators mansplaining female biology to me ... then making their mansplaining law.

Men and women vote. We have elected Representatives. If every one of them is pushing laws you don't like on abortion or Planned Parenthood or just about anything on Earth your recourse is to sue with the ACLU to stop it or vote the people doing these things you hate out of office.

Them's the breaks. Mansplained well enough or do I have to add some more cliches?

To the victor go the spoils.

How about...

“In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women.”

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Yeah mansplaining is just going to have to fall under the "tough shit" column but I still want to try and figure out the whitesplaining so maybe I can stop it if I'm doing it.

Hell, I thought pitching riverman shit over poor black kids needing to go to the library by the thousands was counter to that, but what so I know?

 

[Cippy91]

so, if people you know dont talk about something, it doesnt exist? logical.



Do you think they dont protest enough? That certainly is a fresh take on the subject lol.

blm isn’t just about the loss of black lives. it’s about the lack of consequences of rampant police brutality. But they should protest more things according to you? And exactly why in the ever loving fuck would they ever care about what you think they should protest?



nonsense. There are countless organizations combating it in chicago. And white cops DO hunt down black men. that is a fact, jack.

even in chicago it seems. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/14/...by-systemic-racism-task-force-finds.html?_r=0



what people? compared to what? Talk radio nonsense.



there are anti-violence groups in chicago working around the clock. and anti-gang groups. and community outreach. and after school programs. millions and millions of dollars and man hours put towards preventing violence. They are all trying to do something about it. Are you trying to do something about it? Im sure they would appreciate the help as a volunteer.



LOL. also, there is a rather serious war on christmas going on.



Every time a black family buries their son or daughter due to gun violence, Im sure there are plenty of people who would beg to differ. maybe you should join an outreach program to help some of them deal with their grief, so you can see firsthand how much the loss of life matters to them.

You're the ultimate virtue signaler. No, cops don't hunt down black men. Saying that is super ignorant, jack. Yes I'm aware of groups in Chicago that do this, if you ever have time out of your days check out the interrupters, a documentary about one of those groups. I see you're here to make an excuse for the blm movement that's great. You still haven't acknowledged it's an obvious problem, way more of a problem than any cops. Check the numbers

 

[Cippy91]

i mean, long story short, you dont know what the fuck you are talking about.

weve seen how this ends. remember this guy?

What I'm saying isn't racist, I know exactly what I'm talking about but maybe if you weren't so brainwashed by this bullshit you would do your research and check the numbers as well as stop saying the most ridiculous shit such as "cops do hunt down black people". Yeah uhhhhh okay.

 

[Cippy91]

So I am "retarded"? Damn, another slur. And personal insult.

And I am not a man.

Of course without reading the study, or even the article about it, you 1) know what it says and 2) why the difference in courtesy.

Dviss is absolutely right.
And while I am not black I am a woman and have to live with state legislators mansplaining female biology to me ... then making their mansplaining law.

Yeah you lost me at mansplaining. Blacksplaining and mansplaining. Jesus Christ society is fucked

 

[Cippy91]

Yeah mansplaining is just going to have to fall under the "tough shit" column but I still want to try and figure out the whitesplaining so maybe I can stop it if I'm doing it.

Hell, I thought pitching riverman shit over poor black kids needing to go to the library by the thousands was counter to that, but what so I know?

dude you have to understand the two people you're dealing with. We have a woman who probably watches buzzfeed and sites them as credible, ultra progressive,she just said mansplaining. So a woman and a black man come in here both telling a white man that you can't mansplain or blacksplain. Two made up words by the out of control far left used to tell a white man that their opinion isn't invalid because of their race and gender. This is what these types do. They think they are morally superior and instead of exchanging dialogue they force their shit down your throat and come up with made up words, etc. it's mental. This is exactly why my ass stays out of Portland and away from the PC crowd and instead I prefer some actual logic based humans who can properly communicate without using made up words and playing victim. These two belong at evergreen university

 

[theprunetang]

dude you have to understand the two people you're dealing with. We have a woman who probably watches buzzfeed and sites them as credible, ultra progressive,she just said mansplaining. So a woman and a black man come in here both telling a white man that you can't mansplain or blacksplain. Two made up words by the out of control far left used to tell a white man that their opinion isn't invalid because of their race and gender. This is what these types do. They think they are morally superior and instead of exchanging dialogue they force their shit down your throat and come up with made up words, etc. it's mental. This is exactly why my ass stays out of Portland and away from the PC crowd and instead I prefer some actual logic based humans who can properly communicate without using made up words and playing victim. These two belong at evergreen university

So you instead shove your shit down their throats? Productive. Can you hypocritesplain this to me?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Can someone chingchongsplain wtf is going on?

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I liked both posts^^^^^figure that shit out

 

[Cippy91]

So you instead shove your shit down their throats? Productive. Can you hypocritesplain this to me?

I didn't use terms like womansplain or blacksplain in which I meant to say whitesplain in my prior post but I fucked that up that's how stupid these made up words are. I didn't sit there and complain and claim I was being oppressed. I mean hey if that's how these couple people are then cool I'm just glad I never have to actually hang around them, I might kill myself if that was the case, holy fuck

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Can someone chingchongsplain wtf is going on?

Not this one though. The two above it. I'll like this later.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Can someone chingchongsplain wtf is going on?

Did you mean Cheechchongsplain?

Can't.

 

[Cippy91]

So I'm curious if a white person tries to explain anything to dviss does he freak out and scream "you're whitesplaining to me!" Followed by running away

 

[theprunetang]

I didn't use terms like womansplain or blacksplain in which I meant to say whitesplain in my prior post but I fucked that up that's how stupid these made up words are. I didn't sit there and complain and claim I was being oppressed. I mean hey if that's how these couple people are then cool I'm just glad I never have to actually hang around them, I might kill myself if that was the case, holy fuck

You may be living with your head in the sand. There has been systematic oppression of people in this country. Check out this interview with Charles Barkley and Alt- right hero Richard Spencer.


Just because you don't experience or see oppression doesn't mean it isn't there.

 

[theprunetang]

Can someone chingchongsplain wtf is going on?

Only if I can also cucksplain the whole topic to you as well.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

You may be living with your head in the sand. There has been systematic oppression of people in this country. Check out this interview with Charles Barkley and Alt- right hero Richard Spencer.


Just because you don't experience or see oppression doesn't mean it isn't there.

Oooh I gotta watch this. Charles is just like me. Love that dude. Yeah, I know he says stupid shit sometimes. So what?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Only if I can also cucksplain the whole topic to you as well.

Someone has to do it for you while you jerk off and cry in the corner

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Only if I can also cucksplain the whole topic to you as well.

Hahaha. HCP can cocksplain it too. I ain't referring to his junk either.

 

[theprunetang]

Someone has to do it for you while you jerk off and cry in the corner

Have you been spying on me? Are you a gang-stalker?

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I guess I assplain stuff to people.

I'm either an ass about it because I'm right or I just pull it directly from there. Either way, I win.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I'm lunchsplaning right now

 

[theprunetang]

Have you been spying on me? Are you a gang-stalker?

That was you hiding behind those bushes in Laurelhurst park and Mt Tabor earlier today!

 

[MarAzul]

explain anything to dviss does he freak out and scream "you're whitesplaining to me!

Oh careful! It gets much worse than that!

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Can someone chingchongsplain wtf is going on?