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SwissBlazer said:
If he is pissed and still on the team by opening night I contemplate coming to Portland to boo him for his first introduction as a Blazer. Money well spent.
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I think he will be fine by then. Of course he was pissed going from the team with he 3rd best record to a lottery team. I would not expect him to be happy about it. No player would.
 
STOMP said:
Did you really think I needed reminding that you're the champion of the stinks on ice view that there were realistic trade options for Grant? The season following July 2023 when he gleefully penned his name to the monstrous escalating contract that he'll be on for 3 more seasons he played okay, like at the level of an average NBA starter. Unfortunately for Portland, his contract allots him an All Star's percentage of the cap. Whats the best ability? Of course it's availability and the new 30 year old capped that meh of a season by missing 1/3rd of it. Unfortunately for Portland, not being available is an established norm for him as he's averaged missing over 1/3rd of the season for the past 4 seasons.

That you couldn't tell this was a massive overpay at the time it went down is not a badge of honor. Jerami's play never justified that sort of contract and sans Dame Portland was clearly no where close to a playoff level roster, so wheres the motivation to tie up finances with an oft injured not that great of a player cresting 30? I've no idea what Shelburne "reported" but the time line speaks for itself and many posters called it as such... is there some reason you didn't link this mystery reporting that you're holding up as justification?

STOMP
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Oh I hated the contract when it was announced. Go read the threads then I was strongly opposed to the deal regardless of Dame (and I wanted Dame traded)

Shelburne reported it on TV... I don't track links of everything Ive heard in my life just to give to some random guy online. Just starting a fact of what she said on national TV. You can go find it if you care so much.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
That's what I was thinking last night when everyone was talking about Ant. Fans who thought he was shit were pissed we did not get more for him.
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Joe Cronin is terrible! He kept Ant who sucks at D and is a negative, who is stunting Sharpes career.
Cronin is a terrible GM! He traded Ant for a defensive master who fits the style of play this team is going for and can mentor Scoot. He doesn't need the ball like Ant did but dammit… Cronin is just terrible!!!!!
 
SwissBlazer said:
https://heavy.com/sports/nba/boston-celtics/celtics-trade-up-2025-nba-draft/

So Jrue is “pissed” to be a Blazer?
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The thing I find most interesting in that article is

Then again, added one coach, “I wonder how much of what we see from him is impacted by how they’re playing at any given time. Because when Boston is playing its best ball, Holiday sure seems to be a big part of their success. When the ball is sticking and they’re doing their iso s***, he’s not as involved.”
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Added a scout, “When all they want to do is go iso and shoot 3s, that’s not Jrue. That’s not Jrue at all.”
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Edited for the second quote
 
Cugel said:
A good point was brought up: POR has to get a frp to convey to CHI in order to get the swap from MIL. In other words they have to make the post season to ensure they keep that swap etc.
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Blazer make the playoffs in 2026 or 2027 they get the swap.

If they miss the playoffs both years and miss it in 2028 they keep the swap.

Only scenario they lose the swap is miss the playoffs in 2026, 2027, but make it in 2028.

Yeah it's possible.... But seems unlikely.

If each years playoffs was a coin flip that would be a 1/8 chance of 7/8 chance they keep the swap.

Also another way of thinking about it - only way the Blazers lose the swap is if they miss the playoffs SIX consecutive years to them make it the ONE year they would lose a swap.
 
Holiday has to be on the move? My guess is that there’s a player that they want and the other team said get me Jrue and we can make a deal? No idea who said player/ pick would be?
 
Him being pissed Boston traded him doesn't mean he hates Portland..just means he was dug in in Boston. Might have just bought a house he really digs...who knows? He praised Joe Cronin with the Dame trade and has a good relationship with Chauncey. Ayton was pissed at the Suns when they traded him too. Most guys are pissed to have to move, change their kids schools, etc....it's just like the military, you might get shuffled around a lot to earn your paycheck.
 
riverman said:
Him being pissed Boston traded him doesn't mean he hates Portland..just means he was dug in in Boston. Might have just bought a house he really digs...who knows? He praised Joe Cronin with the Dame trade and has a good relationship with Chauncey. Ayton was pissed at the Suns when they traded him too. Most guys are pissed to have to move, change their kids schools, etc....it's just like the military, you might get shuffled around a lot to earn your paycheck.
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Seems like he actually hates Portland

"surprised if Portland doesn’t move him on if they can, because right now he does not want to go there."
 
Pinwheel1 said:
That's what I was thinking last night when everyone was talking about Ant. Fans who thought he was shit were pissed we did not get more for him.
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I think Jrue is about the best case scenario in a Simons trade... I was surprised we got that much, until I remembered he'd had injury problems last season.

And even with the injury, it's good value for Simons.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
No offense, but I was a little surprised that so many fans suggested the same.
It made no sense that the front offense would stop working.
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I wasn’t saying that they wouldn’t make trades. I thought they wouldn’t take on huge salaries unless they were expiring
 
Joe could flip Jrue easily now for any one out of a field of players if it's true that multiple teams are looking to trade for him. Turning Jrue into another impact rotation player would be doable.
 
PCmor7 said:
Oh, I don't know. I think there are a whole lot of reasons this didn't make sense. This is just another one.
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Yeah, the contract, age, etc...but, this is the one that stood out to me. I haven't forgotten he didn't want to be here last time.

Would it have made sense to keep him then? I don't think so.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Oh I hated the contract when it was announced. Go read the threads then I was strongly opposed to the deal regardless of Dame (and I wanted Dame traded)

Shelburne reported it on TV... I don't track links of everything Ive heard in my life just to give to some random guy online. Just starting a fact of what she said on national TV. You can go find it if you care so much.
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nah, I'll just assume you're misconstruing things to fit your silly narative

STOMP
 
I do not think Jrue hates Portland or the Blazers but he wants to be in contention for a title / deep playoff run and no matter what spin Dipshit Joe wants to say this team at best is fighting for the play in.
 
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