Dame asks for trade (And there it is)

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blazerfan11 said:
Drama.
The Blazers go from the drama of Dame to the drama of Simmons.
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So then move him later. Claxton and Clwoney seem to fit perfectly for what we need. Who else can we get besides picks? No star is going to want to go to a young team.
 
blazerkor said:
I don't mind this from Dame. He's asking someone with a public voice, not just some random troll to explain how he has misled anyone. He gave clear warning that the situation had changed and if the team chose to go young they were choosing that over him.
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The only thing to be mad at dame for is the dictation of location, other than that I support Dame in what he did. He did give us warning, like you said.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
He just should ignore it. There are always fans who get emotional and go ballistic. And almost every player in the history of the game has fans who dislike them. Did he really think that fans on the internet were not going to be dicks? That would be a first
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I agree Dame needs to turn the shit off, immediately. It hurts my heart, and gets my blood boiling to read so much vile garbage on S2, now. And to see these posters not understand why Dame is pissed off at Fork Tongued Joe is mindboggling. Joe's lie of "building around Dame "has taken it's toll.
 
I wish people would respect Dames decision. If you want to blast someone blast Jody & Bert for not selling the team.
At my old age of 73, I was hopeful we could do as Joe said he would do and swing for the fence to give Dame a chance, thats all he requested.
Joe imo, struggles taking risk and the reason he's survived as long as he has as a Vulcan, is he's been a yes man, that rubs well & smiles.
He's a numbers cruncher and scout at heart.
 
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BankTeller said:
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Considering the circumstances, would anyone be upset with this package? I was watching a Nets video where their guys were interested in being the third team that takes Herro.

Lowry expires at the end of the season, Simmons the following season. I wouldn’t be mad at that package.
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Much better package than most. Id be fine with this
 
Strenuus said:
The only thing to be mad at dame for is the dictation of location, other than that I support Dame in what he did. He did give us warning, like you said.
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We don't even know exactly what him saying he wants to go to Miami and nowhere else entails. Did he or his agent threaten to sit? Did they threaten not to report to the new team? We're going off some very limited information and people are condemning him for it. I don't blame Dame for telling the team where he wants them to put him but if that's not the best place for the team to move him to then they have to do what they think is best... then we can all see what Dame does.

If Dame shows that he is willing to do some Harden like shit then sure condemn the dude and let it tarnish his reputation but if he goes to that new place and does his best, everyone complaining about him should stop and until they know which way that would go they should stop complaining about Dame. I mean do whatever the fuck you want everybody but just know you're complaining about a dude that has shown nothing but class and you're doing it based on hypotheticals.
 
I love Dame, but he’s amongst the history list of most one-sided players. As good as he is on offense, his D is equally atrocious. But here we are, focusing on offense cuz that’s what sells to the fans. But it doesn’t translate to W’s, and that’s why Portland has been weak for several years now.
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
I love Dame, but he’s amongst the history list of most one-sides players. As good as he is on offense, his D is equally atrocious. But here we are, focusing on offense cuz that’s what sells to the fans. But it doesn’t translate to W’s, and that’s why Portland has been weak for several years now.
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Yeah what happens if he doesn’t make the team he goes to better? How much grace will he get from his new team’s fans?
 
TBpup said:
Well, it's not wrong. If Dame ends up in Miami, it would likely be the biggest 'Big 3' in the league. So much for 'the grind'....
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You don't realize how many people is waiting for it. I don't know much about Bam, but Jimmy and Dame on a Mission would fuckin glue me to the screen during playoffs. They both are just different than other "stars".

I say let Dame do it and support him, just for love for the game:)
At the same time we got Scoot and Sharpe to be exited about.

As Nate said, it was pure logic and I am actually happy about it.
If he goes where he want and we got what we want, I don't see the reason not to stay very good friends.
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
I love Dame, but he’s amongst the history list of most one-sided players. As good as he is on offense, his D is equally atrocious. But here we are, focusing on offense cuz that’s what sells to the fans. But it doesn’t translate to W’s, and that’s why Portland has been weak for several years now.
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That's why I can't figure out why Miami wants him so bad. (Or, maybe the amount they want him is reflected in how poor their tradable assets are?) He doesn't fit their defensive intensity at all, and he would take the ball out of Bam's hands, requiring a complete overhaul of the offense. Is he going to suddenly be comfortable playing off the ball?

He's good at creating his own shot, which is something Miami desperately needs, but at the sake of ball movement which is sort of their specialty.
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
I love Dame, but he’s amongst the history list of most one-sided players. As good as he is on offense, his D is equally atrocious. But here we are, focusing on offense cuz that’s what sells to the fans. But it doesn’t translate to W’s, and that’s why Portland has been weak for several years now.
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It certainly sets a tone for the rest of your team when your best player is that poor on defense. Yes, Curry got away with it, but that is more of a historical asterisk.
 
handiman said:
That's why I can't figure out why Miami wants him so bad. (Or, maybe the amount they want him is reflected in how poor their tradable assets are?) He doesn't fit their defensive intensity at all, and he would take the ball out of Bam's hands, requiring a complete overhaul of the offense. Is he going to suddenly be comfortable playing off the ball?

He's good at creating his own shot, which is something Miami desperately needs, but at the sake of ball movement which is sort of their specialty.
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This is why I’m like “y’all let’s get a deal done before everybody realizes he’s got weaknesses”
 
handiman said:
That's why I can't figure out why Miami wants him so bad. (Or, maybe the amount they want him is reflected in how poor their tradable assets are?) He doesn't fit their defensive intensity at all, and he would take the ball out of Bam's hands, requiring a complete overhaul of the offense. Is he going to suddenly be comfortable playing off the ball?

He's good at creating his own shot, which is something Miami desperately needs, but at the sake of ball movement which is sort of their specialty.
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Also, let's explore the potential impact of Damian Lillard being traded to Miami on his irritable bowel syndrome (IBS). While the allure of the city and its famous pork Cubanos may seem enticing, Lillard's dietary restrictions and IBS could pose challenges.

Pork, a common ingredient in Cubanos, is known to trigger symptoms in individuals with IBS. If Lillard were to indulge in these flavorful sandwiches without considering his condition, he might experience discomfort, flare-ups, and digestive issues. Straining during bowel movements due to the effects of IBS could potentially lead to complications, necessitating another adductor surgery and possibly shortening his basketball career.
 
I think Utah has one of the better packages:

Kessler/Sexton/Ogbaji/Kendricks/1 or 2 Minny picks for Dame and get Nurk in there if you can and salaries match.

Scoot/Ant/Sharpe/Grant/Kessler

Send Dame to a team with an all star, beloved in Utah and they still have plenty of draft capital to get another player.
 
Can’t say it enough. Two D’s in the name, none in the game. It’s literally been a shit factor for us. I can tell you from personal experience, when I was out into a position of power and I lacked “the game” to be the guy, I started looking elsewhere for employment because I’d eventually be exposed. I showed up, I killed it all, I earned every penny, but some shit just above you, and I started to realize and I moved on under my own accord. That’s all Dame is doing here. We built him up and he ain’t it.
 
Nets would like to dump Ben, they also would like to get Herro. Give up a 1st for dumping Simmons, give up another one for getting Herro. Thats a good deal for them. Both to Portland.

Miami wants Dame. And Nurk. They give up Herro, and they also send Kyle Lowry and Jovic to Portland, along with two unprotected 1sts. They're instant contenders.

Portland loses Dame and Nurk, and eats the Simmons and Lowry contracts, and gets Jovic (he or Highsmith need to be included to make the $$$ match), plus the two Nets 1sts and unprotected Heat 1sts.

Lowry expiring. Simmons expires before Shaedon's rookie contract comes up. Jovic is a good talent.

This works money-wise for every team involved. It also seems to align with what these teams supposedly want?
 
Hoopguru said:
I wish people would respect Dames decision. If you want to blast someone blast Jody & Bert for not selling the team.
At my old age of 73, I was hopeful we could do as Joe said he would do and swing for the fence to give Dame a chance, thats all he requested.
Joe imo, struggles taking risk and the reason he's survived as long as he has as a Vulcan, is he's been a yes man, that rubs well & smiles.
He's a numbers cruncher and scout at heart.
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I think most people are respecting Dame's decision. We understand he has the right to do it. It's the vacillating and seemingly moving parameters and such that bother people, especially when if he'd have just come out and said it without being wishy-washy, no one would have begrudged him. He might want a trade. He might not. He wants vets, but, no, wait, Shaedon is OK. He wants another star and to be a contender. No, he wants a borderline all-star and he'll take it from there. He's giving the Blazers through the end of free agency. D'oh! The Blazers only re-signed Grant on the first day or free agency -- TRADE ME!

For my part, I wish people would consider the idea that the Blazers probably did make attempts to "swing for the fences," because, I mean, ask yourself this: Why wouldn't the Blazers want to have a better team?

"Hey, Dame wants us to re-sign Jerami and get another all-star." "Nahhhh, we don't wanna ...."

I mean, it's a silly idea.

There's also a level to risk. Trading a guy regarded as a potential generational talent for OG isn't risky. It's reckless. It's foolhardy. It's personnel malpractice and any other GM in the NBA would be sacked for doing it.

Finally, I wish people would understand that Cronin's first responsibility is to the organization, not to Damian Lillard. Dame got a lot he requested in 11 years with the Blazers -- teammates, coaches, playing style, relatives on the roster, max contracts. Now you're asking Cronin to mortgage the future, too, to get another Jerami Grant with no assurance Dame won't ask out anyway if it doesn't work out any better than the previous trades for vets and signings? I'm sorry, but that seems unreasonable.
 
perkinsfor3 said:
Nets would like to dump Ben, they also would like to get Herro. Give up a 1st for dumping Simmons, give up another one for getting Herro. Thats a good deal for them. Both to Portland.

Miami wants Dame. And Nurk. They give up Herro, and they also send Kyle Lowry and Jovic to Portland, along with two unprotected 1sts. They're instant contenders.

Portland loses Dame and Nurk, and eats the Simmons and Lowry contracts, and gets Jovic (he or Highsmith need to be included to make the $$$ match), plus the two Nets 1sts and unprotected Heat 1sts.

Lowry expiring. Simmons expires before Shaedon's rookie contract comes up. Jovic is a good talent.

This works money-wise for every team involved. It also seems to align with what these teams supposedly want?
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Four 1sts isn’t enough for me to go through with it. Jovic can’t be the best player coming back if we are only getting four picks back.
 
perkinsfor3 said:
Nets would like to dump Ben, they also would like to get Herro. Give up a 1st for dumping Simmons, give up another one for getting Herro. Thats a good deal for them. Both to Portland.

Miami wants Dame. And Nurk. They give up Herro, and they also send Kyle Lowry and Jovic to Portland, along with two unprotected 1sts. They're instant contenders.

Portland loses Dame and Nurk, and eats the Simmons and Lowry contracts, and gets Jovic (he or Highsmith need to be included to make the $$$ match), plus the two Nets 1sts and unprotected Heat 1sts.

Lowry expiring. Simmons expires before Shaedon's rookie contract comes up. Jovic is a good talent.

This works money-wise for every team involved. It also seems to align with what these teams supposedly want?
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If Gobert/PG gets you 5 1s Dame gets you 5 1s at least imo.
 
perkinsfor3 said:
Nets would like to dump Ben, they also would like to get Herro. Give up a 1st for dumping Simmons, give up another one for getting Herro. Thats a good deal for them. Both to Portland.

Miami wants Dame. And Nurk. They give up Herro, and they also send Kyle Lowry and Jovic to Portland, along with two unprotected 1sts. They're instant contenders.

Portland loses Dame and Nurk, and eats the Simmons and Lowry contracts, and gets Jovic (he or Highsmith need to be included to make the $$$ match), plus the two Nets 1sts and unprotected Heat 1sts.

Lowry expiring. Simmons expires before Shaedon's rookie contract comes up. Jovic is a good talent.

This works money-wise for every team involved. It also seems to align with what these teams supposedly want?
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They need to add Jaquez.
 
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