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illmatic99 said:
I just read about it: as long as they go back in the same transaction, yes. Caught me by surprise, tbh. I thought you couldn't do that.

https://cbabreakdown.com/salary-cap-exceptions

Of all the exceptions, only the Traded Player Exception can be added together to acquire players in a simultaneous transaction (i.e., the same transaction).
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You are reading that incorrectly.
This one is better:
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q85
and
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q90
 
B-Roy said:
Re: TPMLE

The meltdown crew: Olshey is just trying to stay as close to the tax line as possible so he can get out of the tax mid-season if Dame asks for a trade at the trade deadline.

The eternal optimist: We can't use it because we're getting Kawhi in a S&T. We're strategically only signing minimums because we are hard-capped after getting Kawhi.
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There were people against adding Kawhi yesterday.

I have no idea how anyone could say that. But they did.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Yeah but that’s not really the point Bones. They made a massive upgrade in talent. That’s a playoff team in the East.

You're comparing apples to apples and that's not really the problem. The point is that Chicago has gone out and improved their team around their star. We haven't done that. Our star is not happy just being first round fodder anymore. We need to make upgrades to put us in contention.

Chicago now has a lot of talent, but they don't have a top 10 talent on that team. I like LaVine a lot, but he's not top 10.
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He was saying they were more talented. I disagree, so that was the conversation.

Here's the problem though: What might be an upgrade for one team isn't necessarily an upgrade for another. DeRozan made no sense for us. A poor defender who couldn't shoot 3s and needs the ball in his hands to be truly effective. We didn't need a guard so Lonzo Ball wasn't worthwhile. So far, I haven't seen one player that has signed that we could've gotten or a player that's been traded who we should've pursued that would've helped this team. In my opinion, Olshey has missed out on nothing yet. In the mean-time, he got Powell back on a great deal, and his minimum signings have been better than I could've hoped for.

I absolutely agree with "We need to make upgrades to put us in contention", I'm just not going to freak out when the off-season isn't done yet and he hasn't missed out anywhere at this point and has done a good job otherwise.
 
Haynes says we’re looking at Millsap and Oubre
 
Chris Haynes

"I'm not seeing any moves that convinces him (Dame) or me or anyone else"
" I expect Damian to play with the Blazers, give chauncey a shot"
"I'm still hearing paul millsap/kelly oubre"
"so far nothing that moves the needle"
 
OSUBlazerfan said:
Chris Haynes

"I'm not seeing any moves that convinces him (Dame) or me or anyone else"
" I expect Damian to play with the Blazers, give chauncey a shot"
"I'm still hearing paul millsap/kelly oubre"
"so far nothing that moves the needle"
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would love to hear what needle movers Haynes had in mind for the veteran minimum.
 
OSUBlazerfan said:
Chris Haynes

"I'm not seeing any moves that convinces him (Dame) or me or anyone else"
" I expect Damian to play with the Blazers, give chauncey a shot"
"I'm still hearing paul millsap/kelly oubre"
"so far nothing that moves the needle"
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Maube if we got both oubre And millsap we could call this off-season a win
 
OSUBlazerfan said:
Chris Haynes

"I'm not seeing any moves that convinces him (Dame) or me or anyone else"
" I expect Damian to play with the Blazers, give chauncey a shot"
"I'm still hearing paul millsap/kelly oubre"
"so far nothing that moves the needle"
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It’s impossible to get both right? Cause one would have to be a sign and trade and if you do that you can’t use the mle?
Do I have that right?
 
blazedanugz said:
It’s impossible to get both right? Cause one would have to be a sign and trade and if you do that you can’t use the mle?
Do I have that right?
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They can both sign for the minimum.
 
OSUBlazerfan said:
Chris Haynes

"I'm not seeing any moves that convinces him (Dame) or me or anyone else"
" I expect Damian to play with the Blazers, give chauncey a shot"
"I'm still hearing paul millsap/kelly oubre"
"so far nothing that moves the needle"
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Not sure who Damian thought they would be able to sign via free agency that would "move the needle". The only thing that can be done is trading away CJ, and if Dame is against that, Neil might as well pack the bags for him.
 
Man, how long has this team been trying to acquire Millsap now, like 15 years? It would be fitting if they finally got him when he was totally washed.
 
santeesioux said:
Man, how long has this team been trying to acquire Millsap now, like 15 years? It would be fitting if they finally got him when he was totally washed.
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if he’s washed it isn’t showing up on paper. Graded out positively on both ends of the court this past season.
 
Oubre for the TPMLE and a second year player option would be nice if he cannot secure any money from anyone else. I think we could offer him a big role here.

I don't know if he's a needle mover, and his IQ is suspect, but clearly he raises the ceiling of this team more than Tony Snell, Cody Zeller and Ben McLemore ever could.
 
B-Roy said:
Oubre for the TPMLE and a second year player option would be nice if he cannot secure any money from anyone else. I think we could offer him a big role here.

I don't know if he's a needle mover, and his IQ is suspect, but clearly he raises the ceiling of this team more than Tony Snell, Cody Zeller and Ben McLemore ever could.
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Does he want to start though?
 
B-Roy said:
Oubre for the TPMLE and a second year player option would be nice if he cannot secure any money from anyone else. I think we could offer him a big role here.

I don't know if he's a needle mover, and his IQ is suspect, but clearly he raises the ceiling of this team more than Tony Snell, Cody Zeller and Ben McLemore ever could.
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Zeller >>> Oubre.
 
Scalma said:
Zeller >>> Oubre.
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Our Oubre for TPMLE competition:

ATL - No role here
BOS - Not going into the tax
CHA - 13.5 for Oubre?
CHI - Can offer full MLE
CLE - Can offer full MLE
LAC - Kawhi is out, he has a clear role here
GSW - Do they want him back?
MIL - Don't think they are spending more into the tax for Oubre
MIN - Team sucks, but they can offer the full MLE
NOP - Can offer full MLE
PHI - Does he have a role here?
SAC - Can offer full MLE
TOR - Can offer full MLE, but why would they want him
WAS - They aren't going into the tax for Oubre
 
Am curious, looking at different exceptions, if there might be an attempt to move Jones and shed salary, in an attempt to be able to use the full MLE. Hardcapping ourselves in the process, but having more buying power?
If the previous figures showed us at right around the tax, that gives us 6.5 or so in breathing room under the apron.
 
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