Game Thread GAME# 43: BLAZERS @ MAVERICKS - JANUARY 17, 2020 - FRIDAY, 6:30 PM, ESPN & NBCSNW

[kjironman1]

I've seen Hassan do it this season man. It's also better than literally giving Luka a wide open shot every time there is a screen for him.

And when the Blazers do it without another player on the court that can challenge a shot at the rim like Collins or Skal the other team drives and gets an uncontested layup. Great job coach. Nice game plan.

 

[Tince]

Well I give our team credit they didn't give up but we got wore down.

Great effort by the group. Lot of things went against them and they kept it a game until the end.

 

[KSF-ERIC]

It wasn't our offense that was the problem...

At the end, we had a chance and our shots didn’t fall. But game ball to Hardaway. He was the difference.

 

[Tince]

 

[KSF-ERIC]

Whitside with 21/18 on 9-10 shooting with 5 blocks. Empty stats? I think not.

A lot of the times, Dallas scores because Hassan tries to block everything. Stats don’t tell the whole story. And often, even if he gets the block, they score.

 

[KSF-ERIC]

Well there you go. That’s where CJ would’ve helped.

 

[Tince]

On the bright side, we had 6 more assists than Dallas who is praised for how great their offense is!

 

[wizenheimer]

Missed having CJ to hit some big shots. Dammit.

Portland averages less than 20 assist with CJ, tonight they had 25 and shot 52% from the floor. What they missed tonight was the perimeter defense. Giving up 60 points from the arc will lose just about every time

Portland also missed Seth Curry, but Dallas didn't

 

[kjironman1]

Being a coach takes a bit more than sitting in a game thread saying “Hedge the pick hedge the pick! “.
Been reading if for three months now. Every time they did it tonight the Blazers got burned. The way they came back was by playing tough and making them take long threes that missed.
Luka made a huge three at the end. That shot was about 30 feet or more? If Dame and Baze would have made their wide open looks Luka would not have taken the chance on that shot and if he would have made it the game would still have been a one possession game.

 

[hoopsjock]

Why does seemingly every other game someone gets a career high in '3's against us?

Because apparently our players aren't allowed to be taught how to hedge picks and then rotate properly according to @kjironman1 and @Tince

 

[kjironman1]

Because apparently our players aren't allowed to be taught how to hedge picks and then rotate properly according to @kjironman1 and @Tince

You can’t teach lateral quickness. Sorry try again.

 

[Tince]

Portland averages less than 20 assist with CJ, tonight they had 25 and shot 52% from the floor. What they missed tonight was the perimeter defense. Giving up 60 points from the arc will lose just about every time

Portland also missed Seth Curry, but Dallas didn't

If CJ is out for a while it will be interesting if we see assist and/or offensive effciency go up. Probably won't end up being a large enough sample size to come up with an obvious conclusion, but still interesting. I don't think Portland changed their offense tonight, so maybe it is a personnel thing.

 

[hoopsjock]

You don't think that would result in a layup nearly every time?

Oh my bad, letting Luka walk into an open 3 is way better.

And when the Blazers do it without another player on the court that can challenge a shot at the rim like Collins or Skal the other team drives and gets an uncontested layup. Great job coach. Nice game plan.

So they should just give up and sag the big when they give up 120 points in a game (98 in the first 3 quarters)?

Only 22 in the 4th when they hedged, just sayin'

 

[DDolla]

Down 4 and if we only have CJ in there we could have tied the game. Oh well... we win tomorrow

 

[twobullz]

Would have been nice if at least one of the bench guards had stepped up with CJ out.

 

[hoopsjock]

You can’t teach lateral quickness. Sorry try again.

I feel like you don't understand what hedging a pick means then. It literally has nothing to do with lateral quickness if the whole team knows how to rotate.

 

[Tince]

Because apparently our players aren't allowed to be taught how to hedge picks and then rotate properly according to @kjironman1 and @Tince

It's not a matter of teaching it, but a matter of trying to put your personnel in the great position to use their strengths and minimize their weaknesses. If you want Whiteside out at 30ft, that's fine. Spolstra didn't think that was a good idea. Stotts doesn't appear to think it's a good idea.

 

[DUB]

Fulltime
Us - 112
Them - 120

FG%
Us - 51.8%
Them - 43.8%

3PM/A(%)
Us - 9/30 (30%)
Them - 20/47 (42.6%%)

FTM/A(%)
Us - 15/22 (68.2%)
Them - 22/28 (78.6%)

Points in the Paint
Us - 62
Them - 30

 

[kjironman1]

Oh my bad, letting Luka walk into an open 3 is way better.


So they should just give up and sag the big when they give up 120 points in a game (98 in the first 3 quarters)?

Only 22 in the 4th when they hedged, just sayin'

Sorry coach they hedged at times the entire game. Try again. The bigger problem was getting called for fouls every time they breathed on Luka.

 

[James lamphear]

You got changed up your defense at times hoping it confused the other team. But they don't practice hedging due that couple times two guys was on player with out the ball. Another problem is communication on defense is also bad.

 

[Tince]

I feel like you don't understand what hedging a pick means then. It literally has nothing to do with lateral quickness if the whole team knows how to rotate.

An effective hedge will use some lateral quickness because cheating out slow and early will lead to an easy slip and a 4 on 3. After the hedge, you now have your only shot blocker at 25-30ft, is required to sprint back, indentify the proper rotation, and possibly close out again. Draymond Green is great at this. Collin, not bad at this. Whiteside....

 

[hoopsjock]

It's not a matter of teaching it, but a matter of trying to put your personnel in the great position to use their strengths and minimize their weaknesses. If you want Whiteside out at 30ft, that's fine. Spolstra didn't think that was a good idea. Stotts doesn't appear to think it's a good idea.

And once again this is basically saying open shots are better than hedging.

 

[kjironman1]

I feel like you don't understand what hedging a pick means then. It literally has nothing to do with lateral quickness if the whole team knows how to rotate.

So you actually think rotating has nothing to do with lateral quickness? Really?
Conversation over.

 

[James lamphear]

It's not a matter of teaching it, but a matter of trying to put your personnel in the great position to use their strengths and minimize their weaknesses. If you want Whiteside out at 30ft, that's fine. Spolstra didn't think that was a good idea. Stotts doesn't appear to think it's a good idea.

Well both coaches are right it isn't a good idea.

 

[kjironman1]

Good night. Wish they could have pulled this one out.

 

[AldoTrapani]

Certainly worth tanking for.

They get a legendary player right when their other legendary player retires. Blessed franchise

look at us now

 

[Tince]

And once again this is basically saying open shots are better than hedging.

A bad hedge will often lead to an open layup (100%) or an open 3 (50%). That is probably worse.

 

[bobf]

Fulltime
Us - 112
Them - 120

FG%
Us - 51.8%
Them - 43.8%

3PM/A(%)
Us - 9/30 (30%)
Them - 20/47 (42.6%%)

FTM/A(%)
Us - 15/22 (68.2%)
Them - 22/28 (78.6%)

Points in the Paint
Us - 62
Them - 30

Demonstrating that Points In The Paint is not something to go for.

 

[Tince]

Demonstrating that Points In The Paint is not something to go for.

1990's NBA coaches would be rolling in their graves if they saw this. And I'm not saying you're wrong!

 

[noknobs]

Hopefully Dallas misses about 30 wide-open 3-pointers like the Rockets did.

I guess hope isn't a very good defensive philosophy.