Game Thread GAME# 79: BLAZERS @ NUGGETS - APRIL 5, 2019 - FRIDAY, 7:30 PM, ESPN & NBCSNW

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How do you feel about home-and-away series during the regular season?


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I hate it for a few reasons, the end of the last couple seasons has been a freaking Joke. It also means when you play teams is increasingly important. Sucks if you play teams when they’re trying early in the year and other teams get to beat up on them after theyve stopped trying.
I feel like Kingspeed tonight. The Blazers are gonna win 51-53 games and it seems like people are whining and complaining. Would you rather they not have a chance for HCA?
 
You think itd be smart to throw games with playoff seeding on the line? Seriously?

I'm saying you don't have to be genius to predict a L in this game in January. After Blazers dropped Dallas and Miami games some posters were like "we just had game off, there's nothing to worry about". Yeah, team was lazy after 5 days off and if they not smart enough to know they shouldn't put themselfs in "playoff seeding on the line" in away game in Denver, just before playoffs, risking injury of your best player by literally droping game against Miami, well, coach shoul tell them that.

It was a L game in my calendar. Not hating, just don't understand it.

Apart of that I don't think this playoffs seeding number will do much difference for Blazers as we had no3 last year and it hasn't help much.
 
I feel like Kingspeed tonight. The Blazers are gonna win 51-53 games and it seems like people are whining and complaining. Would you rather they not have a chance for HCA?
... What? How am I whining and complaining about the amount of games their gonna win... I was saying I hate all the resting of players that like half the league is doing right now.
 
I'm saying you don't have to be genius to predict a L in this game in January. After Blazers dropped Dallas and Miami games some posters were like "we just had game off, there's nothing to worry about". Yeah, team was lazy after 5 days off and if they not smart enough to know they shouldn't put themselfs in "playoff seeding on the line" in away game in Denver, just before playoffs, risking injury of your best player by literally droping game against Miami, well, coach shoul tell them that.

It was a L game in my calendar. Not hating, just don't understand it.

Apart of that I don't think this playoffs seeding number will do much difference for Blazers as we had no3 last year and it hasn't help much.
Who cares if it was an L in your calendar though... The experts had them at 35 wins or so, does that mean they shouldve only shown up to play for those 35 games?

Playoff seeding may not matter a lot, but it doesnt hurt to have HCA.
 
I'm saying you don't have to be genius to predict a L in this game in January. After Blazers dropped Dallas and Miami games some posters were like "we just had game off, there's nothing to worry about". Yeah, team was lazy after 5 days off and if they not smart enough to know they shouldn't put themselfs in "playoff seeding on the line" in away game in Denver, just before playoffs, risking injury of your best player by literally droping game against Miami, well, coach shoul tell them that.

It was a L game in my calendar. Not hating, just don't understand it.

Apart of that I don't think this playoffs seeding number will do much difference for Blazers as we had no3 last year and it hasn't help much.
Nobody cares about your calendar. The team isnt gonna throw games in April with seeding/HCA on the line, and to say thatd be smart is ridiculous.
 
... What? How am I whining and complaining about the amount of games their gonna win... I was saying I hate all the resting of players that like half the league is doing right now.
I was talking in general about people in here but I also don't like complaining about what other teams are doing. I'd rather be disappointed in seeding than be one of those tanking teams.

I'm saying you don't have to be genius to predict a L in this game in January. After Blazers dropped Dallas and Miami games some posters were like "we just had game off, there's nothing to worry about". Yeah, team was lazy after 5 days off and if they not smart enough to know they shouldn't put themselfs in "playoff seeding on the line" in away game in Denver, just before playoffs, risking injury of your best player by literally droping game against Miami, well, coach shoul tell them that.

It was a L game in my calendar. Not hating, just don't understand it.

Apart of that I don't think this playoffs seeding number will do much difference for Blazers as we had no3 last year and it hasn't help much.
Case in point.

Well man, if you had it as a loss in your calendar why didn't they just forfeit? In fact why don't they just not play any of the games and you can just tell us who your calendar says will be champions.

Horrible take.
 
I was talking in general about people in here but I also don't like complaining about what other teams are doing. I'd rather be disappointed in seeding than be one of those tanking.
So would I but those teams tanking like crazy do effect seeding, which is my problem. Just look at tonights scoreboard, Houstons gonna go into the playoffs on a massive roll because literally everyone they play but OKC is trying to lose. Its not that I want to be Phoenix.
After Nurk got hurt the emotional side of me was like wel this seasons over lets keep Dame out and try again next year, I was being stupid though. In not stupidville you play to win and it messes up the last month of the season when literally about half the league is all of a sudden “too injured” to play some of these line ups are just not NBA teams, they’re G-League teams in NBA uniforms...
 
Who cares if it was an L in your calendar though... The experts had them at 35 wins or so, does that mean they shouldve only shown up to play for those 35 games?

Playoff seeding may not matter a lot, but it doesnt hurt to have HCA.
Yes, it hurts. Opening the playoffs in Utah is not what we fucking want. After a great season, I don't want us to be behind the 8 ball to start the playoffs. I really want to open the playoffs at home even if we only split the first two games.
 
So would I but those teams tanking like crazy do effect seeding, which is my problem. Just look at tonights scoreboard, Houstons gonna go into the playoffs on a massive roll because literally everyone they play but OKC is trying to lose. Its not that I want to be Phoenix.
After Nurk got hurt the emotional side of me was like wel this seasons over lets keep Dame out and try again next year, I was being stupid though. In not stupidville you play to win and it messes up the last month of the season when literally about half the league is all of a sudden “too injured” to play some of these line ups are just not NBA teams, they’re G-League teams in NBA uniforms...
But other than Denver we've played a lot of crap too and end the season with back to back non-playoff teams.
 
But other than Denver we've played a lot of crap too and end the season with back to back non-playoff teams.
Im totally aware of that. Just think the end of the season has become a little bit of a joke and I think its bad for basketball in general. If the players dont care, weve got General Soreness resting a game vs Milwaukee cause he feels like it, if the teams dont care and just want the season to be over it is bad for the sport.
 
So would I but those teams tanking like crazy do effect seeding, which is my problem. Just look at tonights scoreboard, Houstons gonna go into the playoffs on a massive roll because literally everyone they play but OKC is trying to lose. Its not that I want to be Phoenix.
After Nurk got hurt the emotional side of me was like wel this seasons over lets keep Dame out and try again next year, I was being stupid though. In not stupidville you play to win and it messes up the last month of the season when literally about half the league is all of a sudden “too injured” to play some of these line ups are just not NBA teams, they’re G-League teams in NBA uniforms...
Phoenix and New York have no incentive to lose. They are already locked into the bottom 4 and the bottom 4 all have the same odds of getting the number one pick. This is new to curb tanking. Knicks and Suns should go for it the rest of the way. I was telling Chris though, the best way to end tanking would be to make it so the bottom two teams don't get a first round pick at all. That would make for some very exciting games down the stretch.
 
Phoenix and New York have no incentive to lose. They are already locked into the bottom 4 and the bottom 4 all have the same odds of getting the number one pick. This is new to curb tanking. Knicks and Suns should go for it the rest of the way. I was telling Chris though, the best way to end tanking would be to make it so the bottom two teams don't get a first round pick at all. That would make for some very exciting games down the stretch.
Sorry, but that's a terrible idea.
 
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Trail Blazers
Starters MIN FG 3PT FT OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS
A. AminuA. AminuPF 31 3-11 2-6 4-4 3 11 14 3 2 1 2 0 +2 12
M. HarklessM. HarklessSF 29 4-7 1-2 0-0 2 3 5 2 0 0 3 4 -2 9
E. KanterE. KanterC 38 12-17 0-0 0-0 5 2 7 4 0 0 2 3 +6 24
D. LillardD. LillardPG 39 3-14 0-6 8-9 0 4 4 8 0 0 2 3 +5 14
R. HoodR. HoodSG 34 8-12 1-4 0-0 0 2 2 1 3 0 1 3 +4 17
Bench MIN FG 3PT FT OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS
Z. CollinsZ. CollinsPF 16 1-4 1-2 1-2 1 3 4 1 0 1 1 1 -14 4
M. LeonardM. LeonardPF 7 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 2 -11 0
J. LaymanJ. LaymanSF 19 6-10 3-5 0-0 0 2 2 2 1 0 0 4 -18 15
E. TurnerE. TurnerSG 21 5-9 2-3 3-5 1 0 1 3 0 0 2 3 -10 15
A. SimonsA. SimonsSG 5 0-2 0-1 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 -7 0
S. LabissiereS. LabissierePF DNP-COACH'S DECISION
S. CurryS. CurrySG DNP-COACH'S DECISION
G. Trent Jr.G. Trent Jr.SG DNP-COACH'S DECISION
TEAM 42-86 10-29 16-20 12 28 40 24 6 2 14 23 110
48.8% 34.5% 80.0% Source ESPN
 
Phoenix and New York have no incentive to lose. They are already locked into the bottom 4 and the bottom 4 all have the same odds of getting the number one pick. This is new to curb tanking. Knicks and Suns should go for it the rest of the way. I was telling Chris though, the best way to end tanking would be to make it so the bottom two teams don't get a first round pick at all. That would make for some very exciting games down the stretch.
Well the problem is, the idea of the draft is to help the worst teams by allowing them to get a good (hopefully) young player.
So if a team really, does just suck, its kind of a groin kick to say you suck and you dont get a first round pick...
 
And if Aminu is such a shitty post defender
Woah Woah there turbo. Nobody said Aminu is a shitty post defender. My only statement was that Aminu got smoked tonight by Milsap. I also said the Blazers don't have anyone better. Then i said the Blazers need to adjust and give him some help.
I am not a huge fan of Aminu. He has some huge flaws in his game but seriously that dude comes to play every single night. I doubt there is a player other than Dame that leaves more on the court game after game season after season than the Chief. Lets not get confused here and start calling players "Shitty". I have called him a train wreck when he is dribble driving, bouncing it off his knee, but that is another conversation altogether.
 
when was the last time dame had a good game vs a WC playoff opponent in a win?
 
I'm saying you don't have to be genius to predict a L in this game in January. After Blazers dropped Dallas and Miami games some posters were like "we just had game off, there's nothing to worry about". Yeah, team was lazy after 5 days off and if they not smart enough to know they shouldn't put themselfs in "playoff seeding on the line" in away game in Denver, just before playoffs, risking injury of your best player by literally droping game against Miami, well, coach shoul tell them that.

It was a L game in my calendar. Not hating, just don't understand it.

Apart of that I don't think this playoffs seeding number will do much difference for Blazers as we had no3 last year and it hasn't help much.
C'mon.... They played with that team all night. They were in a position to steal a win with 30 seconds left. If they get that win and they bring Denver back here under huge pressure to try to keep the second seed and with a greater possibility at the third seed then this was a huge win. Now if you want to complain about wins they should have got earlier in the season then that is another story but as far as playing to win that game? There is no question Lillard plays. You do remember them being ahead in the first half right? You do remember them being ahead in the second half right? You do remember being behind by three with the ball and Aminu driving to the basket trying to bring the game within one point right?
 
Looked it up. It seems like it for some reason but Dame has actually played really well recently against good playoff teams:

- vs DET: 28/9/6 on 9/16-- W
- vs IND: 30/15/2 on 9/16 -- W
-@ SA: 34/6/5 on 13-29 shooting -- L
- @LAC: 20/12/3 on 8/14 -- W
- vs OKC: 51/9/5 on 15/28 -- L
- @ TOR: 24/8/6 on 8/17 -- L
- @ BOS: 33/7/4 on 13/28-- W

But man he was awful last night. Shot selection was abominable. Didn't really control the game like he usually does.
 
I would imagine more than a few Denver's fans are not happy with squeaking by a team missing two stars, one major bench scorer, and a below average Dame performance.

I hate to say it but just a typical Dame performance last night and we win. It happens.
 
Paul had a great game and we saw what putting size on him looked like a couple times in this game. His footwork, handle, quickness and crafty foul drawing make it so that putting more size on him and calling it a day is no great solution. Great passer too so a double might help take him away, but there's little guarantee that Denver isn't still finding a great shot elsewhere.

Also went back and watched all of Denver's offensive possessions and Harkless was directly matched up with Millsap exactly 0 times. Switched with Aminu on a cross screen and was put in the basket... literally no other possession was Moe the primary defender.

And if Aminu is such a shitty post defender vs size and Moe is in fact the better option (which I still greatly disagree with), is he the better perimeter defender?

I think we all know the answer to that question.
Im gonna have to go rewatch parts of this because it seems like Harkless got switched onto him a few times.

I dont really get where you’re coming from about Aminu being a crappy defender, I dont think anyone said that...
 
Looked it up. It seems like it for some reason but Dame has actually played really well recently against good playoff teams:

- vs DET: 28/9/6 on 9/16-- W
- vs IND: 30/15/2 on 9/16 -- W
-@ SA: 34/6/5 on 13-29 shooting -- L
- @LAC: 20/12/3 on 8/14 -- W
- vs OKC: 51/9/5 on 15/28 -- L
- @ TOR: 24/8/6 on 8/17 -- L
- @ BOS: 33/7/4 on 13/28-- W

But man he was awful last night. Shot selection was abominable. Didn't really control the game like he usually does.
I think Denver has a big match up advantage against Portland in that they always have 2-3 guys who can switch / trap and guard dame on PNR’s and the PNR is what the Blazers run... a lot. I actually dont mind the matchup with Utah because I think Rubio cant guard Dame, I dont think Mitchell can either, Ingles, Crowder, those guys dont scare me much in traps. The Blazers should be able to score, there problem will be RudyG.
 
I dont really get where you’re coming from about Aminu being a crappy defender, I dont think anyone said that...

Yeah that never came into conversation. Blazers are lucky to have a guy work as hard on defense as Aminu.
 
I think Denver has a big match up advantage against Portland in that they always have 2-3 guys who can switch / trap and guard dame on PNR’s and the PNR is what the Blazers run... a lot. I actually dont mind the matchup with Utah because I think Rubio cant guard Dame, I dont think Mitchell can either, Ingles, Crowder, those guys dont scare me much in traps. The Blazers should be able to score, there problem will be RudyG.
Some of that is just as Bones has pointed out. Blazers use that High PnR way too much. Some of that has to do with Players being able to hit shots and giving Dame more room to pass but they could break it up a bit and move closer to mismatches on the side at times? Just show some different looks a bit more.
 
And if he shoots it 25 times on an off game the same people still probably rip into him for being a ball hog...

Lillard had numerous opportunities where he could have isolated one on one and he instead passively threw the ball to Chief or Harkless in the corner. That’s not being a “ball hog” to take the best available option and not be passive - it’s being a ball hog when he launches a 40 foot 3 pt shot with 20 seconds left in the clock.

After the first quarter, he was making bad decisions all night. He was also passive on defense all
game and didn’t get through a single pick all night.

You guys are delusional. Lillard had one of the worst games of his career last night. He was mentally out of it like he was against the Pelicans last year in the playoffs. His energy was pathetic given what was at stake in that game.
 
Looked it up. It seems like it for some reason but Dame has actually played really well recently against good playoff teams:

- vs DET: 28/9/6 on 9/16-- W
- vs IND: 30/15/2 on 9/16 -- W
-@ SA: 34/6/5 on 13-29 shooting -- L
- @LAC: 20/12/3 on 8/14 -- W
- vs OKC: 51/9/5 on 15/28 -- L
- @ TOR: 24/8/6 on 8/17 -- L
- @ BOS: 33/7/4 on 13/28-- W

But man he was awful last night. Shot selection was abominable. Didn't really control the game like he usually does.

I'm glad you saved me the time because when you asked your original question I was thinking...wut? He's played pretty well against playoff teams
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personally, I think it's fucking pathetic that people are hammering Dame for last night's game. The bile is strong in this thread

to start with, the only reason Portland was in a position where last night's game was a big game was because Dame had carried them there. And the asinine irony of this is that the people blaming Dame are blaming him for not taking yet another step and carrying Portland to a win last night in a building they've had historical trouble winning in (had lost 4 in a row before last night), over a team they haven't beat when healthy

second, anybody questioning Dame's commitment to the Blazers and to winning is 100% nincompoop

Dame didn't cost Portland the win last night by playing below his average. He was +5 which was 2nd best on the team behind Kanter. In fact, the starting unit was all + last night. Where was the failure? It could have been:

Evan Turner -10
Jake Layman
-18
Zach Collins
-14
Meyers Leonard
-11
Anfernee Simons
-7

vs

Mason Plumlee +11
Torrey Craig
+10
Malik Beasley
+15
Monte Morris
+12

I believe Dame is simply fatigued by the burden he's been carrying. To me, the worst result wasn't the loss, it was Dame already working on tired legs playing 39 minutes at elevation in the 79th game of the year only 8 days before the playoffs start
 

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