Kevin Love AGAIN (with poll)

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Would you trade for Kevin Love?

  • Yes for anyone other than Lillard and McCollum

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I mean, you know for a fact that Portland has been trying to save money.

Love and TT doesn't do that.

Love and Dellavedova would put Cleveland deep into the tax without any compensation for doing so?

C'mon, you're a smart poster when it comes to cap stuff. Does this really make sense to you?

Once again, you make an assumption that the mandate has always been about saving money. What if it only became that after Cleveland said no, and there were no other deals out there to really improve the team? Look at the trades that were made. What did Portland miss out on? At the point, why wouldn’t you try and save some cash?
 
What if it was Bazemore OR Whiteside? Just because they offered both doesn’t necessarily mean in the same deal. A lot of possibilities that you immediately shut down, or didn’t even consider because well, Olshey sucks and Jody only cares about saving money, or whatever biases you have. But thats just my GUESS.
Nah, because he said elsewhere that when Bazemore was traded it ended the discussions and he also implied that in what you posted.
 
Once again, you make an assumption that the mandate has always been about saving money. What if it only became that after Cleveland said no, and there were no other deals out there to really improve the team? At the point, why wouldn’t you try and shave some cash?
Because at one point this year we had 2 open roster spots and no center and still weren't willing to add someone to the roster to compensate for that.

Ever since Hood went down every single decision has been made to save money. I can't just ignore that fact.
 
Because at one point this year we had 2 open roster spots and no center and still weren't willing to add someone to the roster to compensate for that.

Ever since Hood went down every single decision has been made to save money. I can't just ignore that fact.

So Ariza didn’t upgrade the team?
 
There’s no way he didn’t at least consider trading Whiteside. But at the same time the real fool is the person hanging on every word a GM says in public. They lie, it’s part of their job. Coming out and admitting he considered trading Whiteside accomplishes nothing positive.
Did you just call me a fool
 
So Ariza didn’t upgrade the team?
Ariza has been a good addition!

It doesn't change the motivation behind that trade being financial as well as upgrading which would be very difficult in a trade with Cleveland to accomplish the same result.
 
Btw there was an update on Skal yesterday, and he isn’t expected back anytime soon. So Portland shaved off their tax bill in return for a player that wouldn’t have helped them this season, and potentially also added a pick. Seems like good business to me?
 
Ariza has been a good addition!

It doesn't change the motivation behind that trade being financial as well as upgrading which would be very difficult in a trade with Cleveland to accomplish the same result.

I don’t see what’s wrong with upgrading your team while also saving money. That trade also added to the teams flexibility in the summer/next season. Good business.
 
Btw there was an update on Skal yesterday, and he isn’t expected back anytime soon. So Portland shaved off their tax bill in return for a player that wouldn’t have helped them this season, and potentially also added a pick. Seems like good business to me?
It's a top 55 protected, 2024 pick from ATL. FWIW.
 
I don’t see what’s wrong with upgrading your team while also saving money. That trade also added to the teams flexibility in the summer/next season. Good business.
We'll see if it "added" flexibility this summer. If they waive Ariza they have $1.8 million against the cap that they didn't before that trade so they would've lost a bit of flexibility. I don't get why you aren't understanding that Cleveland wasn't in the same position to save Portland money that Sacramento was though.

Btw there was an update on Skal yesterday, and he isn’t expected back anytime soon. So Portland shaved off their tax bill in return for a player that wouldn’t have helped them this season, and potentially also added a pick. Seems like good business to me?
If Skal was traded because he wasn't healthy then fine but trading him and not using the roster spot literally doesn't change how many healthy players the Blazers have available.
 
I saw this on Twitter. You know how I know it's a bunch of shit?

Bazemore and Whiteside is way more salary than Love and doesn't work under the cap. You'd think media guys would actually do their homework before making stupid claims.
Because you claim to be one of the experts in the forum and you know what goes on in the Blazers war room.
 
Btw there was an update on Skal yesterday, and he isn’t expected back anytime soon. So Portland shaved off their tax bill in return for a player that wouldn’t have helped them this season, and potentially also added a pick. Seems like good business to me?
Would Skal’s cap hold of a little over 7 million going into free agency had any affect on our ability to do trades/use mid level and other exemptions this summer have been a factor in this?
 
I saw this on Twitter. You know how I know it's a bunch of shit?

Bazemore and Whiteside is way more salary than Love and doesn't work under the cap. You'd think media guys would actually do their homework before making stupid claims.
We were prolly offering to take on Henson or Delly in addition, or some other salary filler combos.
 
If Skal was traded because he wasn't healthy then fine but trading him and not using the roster spot literally doesn't change how many healthy players the Blazers have available.

Used the roster spot on who tho? It’s pretty clear that Stotts doesn’t trust new guys to play unless they’re proven players in the league. And Biggie to his credit has improved (this coming from someone that has been very anti Biggie for awhile now.) He’s been fine as Whitesides backup, and Nurkic should be back relatively soon. It’s also pretty obvious they’re committed to Simons and his development, and he’s played better as of late as well. Adding another wing would’ve meant sacrificing Trent and Littles development, and considering where we are this season, I’d rather not.
 
We were prolly offering to take on Henson or Delly in addition, or some other salary filler combos.
Yes, but as mentioned not only would Cleveland be getting nothing for Love (which they weren't willing to do) but that would also make them a luxury tax team when they are one of the worst teams in the league and not getting any incentive to do so. It makes sense from Portland's perspective, unless they wanted to avoid the tax moving forward which getting Love would make very difficult to do.
 
Also, let's be clear, that came from the Cavs beat guy, Jason Lloyd, not Quick.
 
Used the roster spot on who tho? It’s pretty clear that Stotts doesn’t trust new guys to play unless they’re proven players in the league. And Biggie to his credit has improved (this coming from someone that has been very anti Biggie for awhile now.) He’s been fine as Whitesides backup, and Nurkic should be back relatively soon. It’s also pretty obvious they’re committed to Simons and his development, and he’s played better as of late as well. Adding another wing would’ve meant sacrificing Trent and Littles development, and considering where we are this season, I’d rather not.
This opinion is totally fine! I just don't like his health being touted as a main reason for trading him. They saved $2 million to not have Skal be a part of their future plans. That's a financial decision. If Skal was still on the team it wouldn't change any part of your post.
 
Also, let's be clear, that came from the Cavs beat guy, Jason Lloyd, not Quick.
I was pretty neutral on Quick until I heard an interview with him a couple hours after the trade deadline. He couldn't even answer if the Blazers were still in the luxury tax or not after the Skal trade and said he doesn't know much about the cap or how that works.
 
I was pretty neutral on Quick until I heard an interview with him a couple hours after the trade deadline. He couldn't even answer if the Blazers were still in the luxury tax or not after the Skal trade and said he doesn't know much about the cap or how that works.
That all is fine, and Quick usually doesn't float rumors out there.

But this came from the Cleveland guy, who presumably has sources closer to them than Portland. It's totally feasible that he simply omitted salary fillers from his scenario.
 
That all is fine, and Quick usually doesn't float rumors out there.

But this came from the Cleveland guy, who presumably has sources closer to them than Portland. It's totally feasible that he simply omitted salary fillers from his scenario.
But once again, Cleveland was not in a position to save the Blazers money like Sacramento was. It doesn't make sense that Portland would've been willing to add salary either given every decision they've made since the season started.
 
This opinion is totally fine! I just don't like his health being touted as a main reason for trading him. They saved $2 million to not have Skal be a part of their future plans. That's a financial decision. If Skal was still on the team it wouldn't change any part of your post.

But what if they already decided he wasn’t gonna be part of the team next season before the injury? The injury just made it easier to dump him now, since he wasn’t gonna help them anymore this season anyway. Remember, he wasn’t supposed to be in the original rotation. So why not trade him and save a couple mil? These theoreticals are fun, because they can’t really be proven either way.
 
But once again, Cleveland was not in a position to save the Blazers money like Sacramento was. It doesn't make sense that Portland would've been willing to add salary either given every decision they've made since the season started.
Don't overthink this man, it was an offhand comment made in a chat, rehashing something he prolly found out over a month ago.
 
But what if they already decided he wasn’t gonna be part of the team next season before the injury? The injury just made it easier to dump him now, since he wasn’t gonna help them anymore this season anyway. Remember, he wasn’t supposed to be in the original rotation. So why not trade him and save a couple mil? These theoreticals are fun, because they can’t really be proven either way.
See I don't get this line of thinking because to me that is just an excuse for mismanaging the cap. Skal had been fine this year, especially considering in my opinion he's more of a PF than a true C. He was often playing C with all guards around him (ironically until the game he got hurt). Not wanting to keep a young athletic big with that skill set who would likely be cheap to re-sign in the off season and still has some potential to pop brings around a whole new set of questions.
 
Don't overthink this man, it was an offhand comment made in a chat, rehashing something he prolly found out over a month ago.
Nah man, it bugs me when people who get paid to do this stuff say things that don't make sense and everyone eats it up like it's 100% true.
 
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