Markieff Morris?

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I don't want him on the Blazers at all but this would be a great time to use our capspace to facilitate him to a team that otherwise couldn't get him if PHX doesn't want to take back salary.
 
I don't want him on the Blazers at all but this would be a great time to use our capspace to facilitate him to a team that otherwise couldn't get him if PHX doesn't want to take back salary.

Another second round pick?
 
I wouldnt offer more than kaman and miller...and probably not even that...we have a lot of young impressionable players...last thing we need is one bad seed turning them into the second coming of the jailblazers.

P.S.

Pelton is stupid if he really thinks we would even consider giving up Vonleh for Morris.

Plus side if we do get him we can nickname him M&M
 
I wouldnt offer more than kaman and miller...and probably not even that...we have a lot of young impressionable players...last thing we need is one bad seed turning them into the second coming of the jailblazers.

P.S.

Pelton is stupid if he really thinks we would even consider giving up Vonleh for Morris.

Plus side if we do get him we can nickname him M&M

And the reason there we shouldn't touch him. That's the biggest plus side...
 
I wouldnt offer more than kaman and miller...and probably not even that...we have a lot of young impressionable players...last thing we need is one bad seed turning them into the second coming of the jailblazers.

P.S.

Pelton is stupid if he really thinks we would even consider giving up Vonleh for Morris.

Plus side if we do get him we can nickname him M&M
As my picture might suggest, I would love nothing more than a second coming of the Jail Blazers. Long live Sheed and Bonzi! Brian Grant and Damon! Scottie Pippen and JR Rider. All time favorite Blazers team (I do not condone all of their off-court activities...)
 
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I think some people here are ignoring the fact that Markieff has a point with his beef with the Suns.
He isn't mad at them because he's a dumbass.
 
If he has character issues, he's not worth it. We already have a solid stable of bigs. I'd rather let Vonleh get playing time.
 
Another second round pick?
All depends on what we would have to take back salary wise to get him to another team. Could be a second round pick or two or it could be a nice young player with promise.
Something like Markief to Toronto, a first from Toronto to suns and Ross/salary to us.
That won't happen just an example of what I could see happening.
Markief is to good of a player for the Suns to straight up give away.
 
He's a good player, has a friendly contract, and is solid all around, not elite of course. I think we should get him if what we have to give up isn't significant.
 
I think 2 second round picks are enough to get him. PHX gets an exception and sheds salary. We get another asset.

Now it we could find a way to get Marcus Morris that'd be great. (I know most probably won't be up for that) Marcus would be a great guy to have off the bench at SF. With those 2 we could make a run at the playoffs, and if not, those are the type of guys that would be in demand at the trade deadline, that or their guys that you could weave into a trade for a star (Boogie) without giving up a more valuable, higher potential asset like Meyers or Vonleh.

I could see something like Henderson and Miller to Detroit (they need help on the wings) for Marcus. You'd see what Crabbe could do as the starting SG, and youd have more shooters and more talent than we do now, for basically no expense.
 
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We aren't in "add serviceable players to fill out the roster" mode. Especially at his position. We have four other front court players with twice the upside and half the baggage, and a seasoned vet who is a proven big man mentor. Why on gods gray earth would adding Morris even be contemplated? How about we think about decent backup point guards?
 
We aren't in "add serviceable players to fill out the roster" mode. Especially at his position. We have four other front court players with twice the upside and half the baggage, and a seasoned vet who is a proven big man mentor. Why on gods gray earth would adding Morris even be contemplated? How about we think about decent backup point guards?
Were in asset acquistion mode, and he's an asset. Why would we add him? Because you can never have too many assets.
 
NO always lauds culture and fit. Morris don't fit the culture.
There's a lotta guys that have behavioral red flags. With us, we're not gonna attract star free agents, so to get enough assets to position us as contenders you gotta take risks.

I'm not up for trading a player of value like Meyers or Plumlee for him, but the thing is is I think he can be had for less, and if so I think it's a chance that should be taken.
 
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I think people here are heavily underrating Morris. Sure he has attitude problems, and could be a problem off the court, but that's another issue.
If you gave me a player profile of: 25 years old, 18/7/3 per 36 statline last year on 49% shooting, 76% from the stripe, and has shot 3s at over a 30% clip his whole career, I'd take him in a heartbeat.
You add the red flags it lowers his value, which gives us more reason to take a free flyer on him. I don't see it hurting us and it could help us a lot going forward.
 
There's a lotta guys that have behavioral red flags. With us, we're not gonna attract star free agents, so to get enough assets to position us as contenders you gotta take risks.

I'm not up for tradon a player of value like Meyers or Plumlee for him, but the thing is is I think he can be had for less, and if so I think it's a chance that should be taken.
pelton's rumor/morris value was a swap for vonleh. you do that trade? not me ,not yet.
 
pelton's rumor/morris value was a swap for vonleh. you do that trade? not me ,not yet.
definitly wouldn't do that. I think Pelton pulled that out of his ass.

I'm responding more to the guys that don't want him at all, because I'd love to give up a 2nd or two to take a flyer on him.
 
If you gave me a player profile of: 25 years old, 18/7/3 per 36 statline last year on 49% shooting, 76% from the stripe, and has shot 3s at over a 30% clip his whole career, I'd take him in a heartbeat.
You add the red flags it lowers his value, which gives us more reason to take a free flyer on him. I don't see it hurting us and it could help us a lot going forward.
Exactly.
 
I like the idea of us facilitating a trade to this team and getting these prospects back. I'll give 2 players I'd love to have abs could be potential targets in a 3-Team trade involving Markeiff. Let's see if yall can guess them

Player A: 22 years old, 6'5 SG, played 2 seasons
Per 36: 15ppg, 4reb, 2ast on 40% FG and 35% 3pt shooting. High motor, great defender, with top notch 2 way potential

Player B: 22 years old, 6'6 PG, 34 career games in 1 season
Per 36: 11ppg, 8ast, 4reb on 30% FG and 19% 3pt shooting. A good defender. In 7 D-League games, he shot 35% from 3 and was a 40% 3pt shooter in college.
 
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If we trade for Markieff it's cap-room, trade exception for him but even then it isn't a no-brainer because we could use these 8mil iin other ways.
I still think he's a good player, though, and probably not over-paid. He could give us another very nice piece in the front-court but maybe we could keep the money and try to bring a "game changer" instead.
 
If we trade for Markieff it's cap-room, trade exception for him but even then it isn't a no-brainer because we could use these 8mil iin other ways.
I still think he's a good player, though, and probably not over-paid. He could give us another very nice piece in the front-court but maybe we could keep the money and try to bring a "game changer" instead.
What exactly can we use the $8M on instead and what game changers are out there to get?
 
On a rebuilding team, why would you want to take on an undersized PF who shoots poorly from three (if any of our players shot his percentages you would all be griping), rebounds well below average for his position and would take time from other guys with more upside? I don't disagree he might provide a few more wins this year, but that is not the point of this year. Three years from now he will still be an undersized non-rebounding PF, when we could have developed Vonleh, Davis, or even Alexander with those minutes.
 
I like the idea of us facilitating a trade to this team and getting these prospects back. I'll give 2 players I'd love to have abs could be potential targets in a 3-Team trade involving Markeiff. Let's see if yall can guess them

Player A: 22 years old, 6'5 SG, played 2 seasons
Per 36: 15ppg, 4reb, 2ast on 40% FG and 35% 3pt shooting. High motor, great defender, with top notch 2 way potential

Player B: 22 years old, 6'6 PG, 34 career games in 1 season
Per 36: 11ppg, 8ast, 4reb on 30% FG and 19% 3pt shooting. A good defender. In 7 D-League games, he shot 35% from 3 and was a 40% 3pt shooter in college.
I would take either Pope or Dinwiddie. I really liked Dinwiddie coming out of school, but he sort of disappointed in his rookie year.
 
Were in asset acquistion mode, and he's an asset. Why would we add him? Because you can never have too many assets.
you seem to keep wanting to trade away all these assets we've already acquired and for low character guys and get rid of all our draft picks...one step forward, two steps backward to become what exactly? Who exactly are these role players that are suddenly going to be signed before November that fill out the roster? Might try and focus on the actual roster we have for a change and start some hype for their success...just sayin'
 
No, it isn't. He's nowhere near good enough to be such a big a pain in the ass.

I may actually believe this. Hahaha!:wink: The truth of Morris probably lies between what the 2 camps (the Bring Him Ins & the DON'Ts!) believe. I think for those of us sayin', if he's cheap, bring him in: he may not help our team as much as we might think/b worth the headache for what he might produce. He is young though so... At the same time, he's definitely got baggage & he may get himself into more things during his time here IF he came here BUT I don't think the trouble he might cause would b as severe as ppl think (to our players/team growth etc.).
 

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