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That’s why I was asking why anybody would actually not expect this.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Go look at other players who were 7'4 and above.

Yao
Manut Bol
Shawn Bradley

They can't play this dude 36 minutes a night and expect him to play 10 years. Find me a single player who was that tall who played regular rotation minutes and had a long career. They don't exist.
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Yao and Bradley played closer to 30 minutes in their “prime” years. Bol played lesser minutes but that was more so because he wasn’t that effective of a player.

Yao was different because not only was he tall, he was also massive. He was around 310 lbs.
 
Wemby doesn't need "minutes" to develop his game. He's already very good at basketball. Wemby needs to develop his body, get in the weight room, gain some NBA strength. Victor doesn't need 40 minutes and 30 shots to get physically stronger.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Find me a single player who was that tall who played regular rotation minutes and had a long career. They don't exist.
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there have been a few notable players as tall as Wemby that I'm recalling right now: Manute Bol, Ralph Sampson, Shawn Bradley, Gheorghe Muresan, Yao Ming, Mark Eaton, Boban Marjanovic.

we know that Yao's body couldn't handle basketball. Sampson missed 3 games his first 3 seasons, then was an injury magnet and retired early. Shawn Bradley was injured a lot too and only averaged 30 minutes or better in one season

Mark Eaton was an iron man. Played 11 seasons till he was 36 and averaged 81 games a year over his first 10 seasons. But his body type was completely different than Wemby

but if we're talking body types and accepting that 7'2 is close enough to Wemby's height than you have to consider Kareem and Mutombo. Kareem averaged about 42 minutes and 80 games/year over his first 7 seasons. He averaged 33 minutes in over 80 games/year when he was 35-39. Mutumbo was basically another iron man averaging 36 minutes over his first 10 seasons. He missed an average of 2.6 games a year. And considering he entered the NBA at 25, that's pretty impressive

now, one factor in those examples is that almost all of them didn't come into the league until they were 22 or older. They came in physically mature and were finished with growing taller. Their bones & joints were likely more well developed. Wemby just turned 20 today so some caution is probably sound practice

edit: forgot about Rik Smits. He was pretty durable over his first 7-8 seasons but he only averaged 27 minutes
 
OneSport3 said:
Yao and Bradley played closer to 30 minutes in their “prime” years. Bol played lesser minutes but that was more so because he wasn’t that effective of a player.

Yao was different because not only was he tall, he was also massive. He was around 310 lbs.
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Yao barely played. Look at how many years he actually played close to a full season.

Same with Bradley.
 
Charcoal Filtered said:
Think the younger generation may see the bigger clubs fan base as silly and support the smaller ones. My son likes Brighton and Hove Albion.
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They're the OKC of the EPL - amazing front office, the envy of the league. I think of Brighton as being in Division 2 or lower - I still can't think of them as a Premier League side.
 
THE HCP said:
She honestly didn’t start watching EPL until about 18 months ago….she says she’s still trying to figure out who her favorite team is. Her college coach is from Liverpool and a diehard fan….trying to convert her. She has favorite players, but not a team yet.
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Liverpool is probably the sweet spot between perennial contender and plucky outsider. They were the unbeatable team of my childhood - Kenny Dalglish, Graeme Souness, Alan Hansen, Ian Rush, John Barnes, Peter Beardsley - legends!
John Oliver is a die-hard fan:
 
THE HCP said:
Wemby would be playing every game/35 minutes a game on every team BUT the Spurs. You think he cares about tonight’s game? Hell no he didn’t.
This is a coach who is always looking down the line, big picture. He has never cared about the regular season. He invented this shit. He literally created time management with his stars.
If there was ever a coach/ team that would do this, it’s Pop and the Spurs.
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No cares what pop thinks when they’re a terrible team. They just want to see wemby play.

he’s not load managing a playoff shoo-in and experimenting with fabricio oberto in the starting lineup here. I think we all remember pop’s hof bonafides.

the criticism is valid—no one needs to give pop the benefit of the doubt on this except spurs fans.

#playwemby

it’s a pure idea that isn’t complicated. hell—even wemby agrees.
 
Samuel said:
No cares what pop thinks when they’re a terrible team. They just want to see wemby play.

he’s not load managing a playoff shoo-in and experimenting with fabricio oberto in the starting lineup here. I think we all remember pop’s hof bonafides.

the criticism is valid—no one needs to give pop the benefit of the doubt on this except spurs fans.

#playwemby

it’s a pure idea that isn’t complicated. hell—even wemby agrees.
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i dunno how more people aren't calling out their bullshit. wasting a perfectly healthy all star caliber season from the most unique player (arguably) ever to suit up just to tank. They must really trust wemby's long term health, but this is egregious in my mind.

even bill simmons blasted in his last broadcast.
 
if we want to center the debate around pop's elite decisionmaking, we can. i certainly remember midseason games at the rose garden when tim duncan was getting hot swapped for some 2nd round stashed euro i'd never heard of. but that's overcomplicating it wildly, imo, and missing the point.

when wemby is getting load managed and clearly being deprioritized in the offense and kept apart from tre jones quite deliberately (the only guy who knows how to do post-entry passing or throw a lob!) it's my opinion that the team should have to hear questions about it. a lot of questions. even if the team has his best interests in mind, they should have to hear questions.

because wemby belongs to everyone. he's fucking awesome.
 
Samuel said:
No cares what pop thinks when they’re a terrible team. They just want to see wemby play.

he’s not load managing a playoff shoo-in and experimenting with fabricio oberto in the starting lineup here. I think we all remember pop’s hof bonafides.

the criticism is valid—no one needs to give pop the benefit of the doubt on this except spurs fans.

#playwemby

it’s a pure idea that isn’t complicated. hell—even wemby agrees.
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Oh were you under the assumption I agree with how Pop is handling the situation?
I'd like to see Wemby play more as well. You asked why it was happening.
 


I'm in on Kuminga. They can have their pick for Kuminga. Or Jerami Grant, take their pick.
 
SheedSoNasty said:
The guys on 1080 were talking about Miles Bridges having the highest chance of landing in Portland.

Does anyone want him here? I say no purely based on his personal record.
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kind of hard to see that although I suppose a LaMelo + Ant back court might make a lot more sense than a Scoot + Ant back court
 
SheedSoNasty said:
The guys on 1080 were talking about Miles Bridges having the highest chance of landing in Portland.

Does anyone want him here? I say no purely based on his personal record.
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those fellers are so hopped up on football, they think having a big strong bruiser in Portland is exactly what this team needs. The Blazers don't have to hire a wife beating criminal to add strength into the lineup.
 
Whyachi said:
those fellers are so hopped up on football, they think having a big strong bruiser in Portland is exactly what this team needs. The Blazers don't have to hire a wife beating criminal to add strength into the lineup.
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Yeah, there is no way in hell the Blazers would risk the PR nightmare that comes with it. Portland is a bad fit for many reasons
 
THE HCP said:
Oh were you under the assumption I agree with how Pop is handling the situation?
I'd like to see Wemby play more as well. You asked why it was happening.
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you implied it wasn't worth questioning pop 'because it's pop'.

it's worth questioning pop!
 
Kuminga is attractive. How to nab him? Warriors are pretty desperate for a shot in the arm. Take back cp3 awful contract? Would they want Grant, Brogdon, Ant, or even Ayton? Of course they probably want Sharpe. I don’t know really what that team needs. Surely scoring help to lighten Steph’s load wouldn’t hurt.
 
ehizzy3 said:
We need to go after Kuminga
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If we were going to get Kuminga, wouldn't it have been better to do so when he was out of the rotation, and not now he's practically pushed Wiggins out of the rotation? You have to get the players before their teams get them playing well!
 
SheedSoNasty said:
The guys on 1080 were talking about Miles Bridges having the highest chance of landing in Portland.

Does anyone want him here? I say no purely based on his personal record.
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They're full of shit. He's literally the last player Brooklyn would trade. (And YES, of COURSE we would want him! He's an iron-man true two-way player with a great attitude!)
 
Rastapopoulos said:
They're full of shit. He's literally the last player Brooklyn would trade. (And YES, of COURSE we would want him! He's an iron-man true two-way player with a great attitude!)
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MB are the right initials. But wrong guy and wrong team
 
Rastapopoulos said:
If we were going to get Kuminga, wouldn't it have been better to do so when he was out of the rotation, and not now he's practically pushed Wiggins out of the rotation? You have to get the players before their teams get them playing well!
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he wants out
 
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