OLSHEY FIRED

[BBert]

Need to trade Dame so he can win a ring like Clyde then start over.

Dame doesn't want your charity.

 

[BBert]

I would not mind if they get a young GM and bring in Ainge in the Jerry West ( advisor ) role since Ainge left the GM job cause of health reasons or something if I recall but Ainge as the GM I am not for cause he might be old school thinking and his time has prolly past.

Fuck Ainge

 

[BBert]

Little is injury prone for sure.

Because of his style of play.

 

[BBert]

Sorry, but John Nash (with assistance from Steve Patterson) made Olshey look like a genius…….

IMO Nash did what he was hired to do. Tear down the team. It was a thankless job.

God that was depressing.

 

[BBert]

It's still strange to me that they let Olshey keep his job last summer, pick his coach, give that coach a lucrative 5 year deal, and then fire the guy midseason for being a douchenozzle. I mean, they must have known a long time ago that he was a douchenozzle, why all of a sudden now?

After Olshey's shitty off season, I kind of hope Dame made them do it.

 

[BBert]

To be fair, he said Ainge's name was certain to "surface," not that he would be seriously considered or hired. I also expect lots of people to link Ainge to the long-term GM job in Portland. I, too, hope he's not seriously considered. I think he has strengths as a GM, but his weaknesses make replicating even his successes in Boston quite unlikely IMO.

He knew Ainge's name would surface, because he just surfaced it. The guy is clairvoyant.

 

[Natebishop3]

Like some other prominent ex-Blazers GMs, Olshey leaves us with an enduring quote for his employment tombstone.

Bob Whitsitt: "I'm not a chemistry major."
Kevin Pritchard: "Let the cake bake."

Neil Olshey: "It's not the roster."

I prefer "that's proprietary."

 

[BBert]

Yeah, I'm not defending him. But CJ wasn't a miss. He could have traded him before now.

I consider CJ a miss because even though he may have been the right player, it was at the wrong time. Sure, take him if you think he's BPA, but once he flashed some potential, trade him for a better fit. Olshey 'missed' on CJ every year for at least the last five. And now look at his value.

 

[MickZagger]

My $0.02 (and it's not even worth that much). Olshey has been on the hot seat for longer than we have known. He sold Stotts down the river as the guy who was to blame and was given another chance with Billups. It's been a bad fit between coach and personnel from the get-go and ownership knew they were getting of Olshey. This "hostile work environment" garbage either fell onto their laps or it was a mountain made from a molehill used as an excuse to fire him early.

Either way, changes are on the horizon. It will be binomial. Either we're going all in to compete for a Championship with Dame or we're blowing it up. My money is unfortunately on the latter as we don't have the draft picks to make short-term trades.

This is the NBA. They need no investigation to fire a GM. That position is a revolving door

 

[stampedehero]

 

[Orion Bailey]

I prefer "that's proprietary."

Its biforcated!

 

[kjironman1]

There ya go!
Now the right one got Fuckin Fired!

 

[Blazinaway]

what a nice weekend with a big smile knowing that Olshey is finally gone

 

[Fairly-Hard]

Ainge also stepped down as GM for health reasons. He makes sense as a Jerry West style advisor, but I don't think it makes sense to bring him on as a full time GM. The Blazers now also without McGowen are an organization lacking executive management to share those duties.

Dewayne Hankins is in McGowen's position. That role is filled pretty well.

 

[Fairly-Hard]

Quick is actually pretty good. He's honest, which I know a lot of people hate because they have this weird thing where everything about the team must be positive or laden with excuses as to why they suck.

Oh Wow? Sigh.... -10

 

[Fairly-Hard]

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Begs the question why would either of them leave Chicago or New York to come to Portland? Seriously why? This even points to them building "Playoff Caliber" teams. Why would the Bulls or Knicks let them leave? If they are doing a good job and they are currently building good teams why would they want to leave their work?

 

[Fairly-Hard]

quick has no clue bro. he thought Olshey was here to stay and put it in print less than 12 hrs ago.

What is even funnier is that he has pulled that article. yes you can still find it but not on his site. Quick is still Jason Quick.

 

[blazerkor]

Begs the question why would either of them leave Chicago or New York to come to Portland? Seriously why? This even points to them building "Playoff Caliber" teams. Why would the Bulls or Knicks let them leave? If they are doing a good job and they are currently building good teams why would they want to leave their work?

Neither of them are in charge. They are both GMs with a President of Basketball Operations overseeing them. They would have both titles here. So it would likely be a pay raise and autonomy. It's a career opportunity so I doubt the Bulls or Knicks would stand in their way.

 

[Scalma]

Begs the question why would either of them leave Chicago or New York to come to Portland? Seriously why? This even points to them building "Playoff Caliber" teams. Why would the Bulls or Knicks let them leave? If they are doing a good job and they are currently building good teams why would they want to leave their work?

yeah why would a person leave for a promotion and more control, just boggles my mind!!

 

[Fairly-Hard]

Neither of them are in charge. They are both GMs with a President of Basketball Operations overseeing them. They would have both titles here. So it would likely be a pay raise and autonomy. It's a career opportunity so I doubt the Bulls or Knicks would stand in their way.

But the Blazers have a President in charge of Operations? Dewayne Hankins? Not sure i follow? Has something been put out that would say the next GM becomes both positions?

 

[Fairly-Hard]

yeah why would a person leave for a promotion and more control, just boggles my mind!!

Did someone in the Blazers ownership say the Next GM was going to be in control of everything? I didn't read that? Sorry. I guess I'm ill informed here? Not sure i understand the snark either?

 

[julius]

But the Blazers have a President in charge of Operations? Dewayne Hankins? Not sure i follow? Has something been put out that would say the next GM becomes both positions?

You're confusing two positions. President in charge of Operations vs President in charge of basketball operations.

One is the business side, the other is the basketball side.

 

[Scalma]

Did someone in the Blazers ownership say the Next GM was going to be in control of everything? I didn't read that? Sorry. I guess I'm ill informed here? Not sure i understand the snark either?

The blazers don’t have a president of basketball ops as olshey filled that role along with GM. It’s a safe bet whoever they hire will fill the same roles. That’s why someone who doesn’t have full control with their current teams, like Eversley, Perry, Barry etc, would be interested.

 

[Fairly-Hard]

You're confusing two positions. President in charge of Operations vs President in charge of basketball operations.

One is the business side, the other is the basketball side.

Ahh. Okay. I was always under the impression President in charge of operations was the top dog. I was wondering if the reason McGowen left was because he was going to have to fire Olshey.
Who actually fired Olshey? Was that Kolde? Was that Jodi Allen herself?

 

[Fairly-Hard]

The blazers don’t have a president of basketball ops as olshey filled that role along with GM. It’s a safe bet whoever they hire will fill the same roles. That’s why someone who doesn’t have full control with their current teams, like Eversley, Perry, Barry etc, would be interested.

Again purely on a conversation level. Does any one person ever have complete control when the Vulcan group is involved? I just wonder that? I wonder who fired Olshey really? Who made the call? I wonder who went into his office and told him? I wonder if anyone actually had the balls to do it?

 

[julius]

Ahh. Okay. I was always under the impression President in charge of operations was the top dog. I was wondering if the reason McGowen left was because he was going to have to fire Olshey.
Who actually fired Olshey? Was that Kolde? Was that Jodi Allen herself?

I think Kolde has historically been the hatchet man. I doubt that Chris left because of that, but who knows.

 

[Fairly-Hard]

I think Kolde has historically been the hatchet man. I doubt that Chris left because of that, but who knows.

Yeah good old Bert!

He's pretty scary!

 

[blazerkor]

Again purely on a conversation level. Does any one person ever have complete control when the Vulcan group is involved? I just wonder that? I wonder who fired Olshey really? Who made the call? I wonder who went into his office and told him? I wonder if anyone actually had the balls to do it?

The people at Vulcan like Kolde have fired a lot of people I'm sure. I doubt they give a fuck about the actual firing. They just want to make sure their ducks are in a row before they do it.

As far as complete control goes, no executive in the league has it. MJ could if he wanted to be his own GM and technically any owner could but none do. So, Vulcan is just the ownership group over the Blazers. The deal with being both President of Basketball Operations and GM is that you make most moves on your own and then have to answer for it later if the owner/ownership group doesn't like it. You basically just have one less person to answer to and as far as day to day basketball operations you have no one looking over your shoulder.

 

[Scalma]

Again purely on a conversation level. Does any one person ever have complete control when the Vulcan group is involved? I just wonder that? I wonder who fired Olshey really? Who made the call? I wonder who went into his office and told him? I wonder if anyone actually had the balls to do it?

when it comes to basketball? Yeah, Olshey had full control, especially after Paul died. Jodi by all accounts seemed to just let him do his job. Don’t think it’ll be any different with the next guy.

 

[Hoopguru]

The people at Vulcan like Kolde have fired a lot of people I'm sure. I doubt they give a fuck about the actual firing. They just want to make sure their ducks are in a row before they do it.

As far as complete control goes, no executive in the league has it. MJ could if he wanted to be his own GM and technically any owner could but none do. So, Vulcan is just the ownership group over the Blazers. The deal with being both President of Basketball Operations and GM is that you make most moves on your own and then have to answer for it later if the owner/ownership group doesn't like it. You basically just have one less person to answer to and as far as day to day basketball operations you have no one looking over your shoulder.

Yeah, HR has a methodical approach to all kinds of firings. I worked for a Corp. that police escorted top level executives out of Building when fired or laid off.
NO is lawyered up thats for sure, and he will probably end up with some sort of negotiated package.