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Scalma said:
Why would they wait until the summer? They have big decisions to make and they need to get someone in ASAP.
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Perhaps the people on their target list are under contract for the season?
 
My $0.02 (and it's not even worth that much). Olshey has been on the hot seat for longer than we have known. He sold Stotts down the river as the guy who was to blame and was given another chance with Billups. It's been a bad fit between coach and personnel from the get-go and ownership knew they were getting of Olshey. This "hostile work environment" garbage either fell onto their laps or it was a mountain made from a molehill used as an excuse to fire him early.

Either way, changes are on the horizon. It will be binomial. Either we're going all in to compete for a Championship with Dame or we're blowing it up. My money is unfortunately on the latter as we don't have the draft picks to make short-term trades.
 
boredinsalem said:
You don't understand how the world works very well.
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right and neil being the 5th longest tenured head of bball ops in the league until today was purely a coincidence.

make no mistake, the ownership group was completely fine with what he did as far as win/loss record. the fallout from mcgowan's resignation made it very clear how in sync Jody was with Neil.
 
maxiep said:
Perhaps the people on their target list are under contract for the season?
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That could be, but i think you get a head start and try to pick up Simmons. Dame, Powell, and Simmons would be a pretty good start. Ant and Nas are nice youthful talents on the rise. Nance a nice glue guy. See if you can get Simmons for CJ/picks, and move off those expirings and go after talent. Christian Wood apparently is on the trade block. Act now. The clock is running.
 
Scalma said:
teams aren’t gonna stop candidates from pursuing promotions.
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i would bet anything CHI asks for compensation if we take on Eversely. perhaps dropping the protections on that pick. i dunno enough about that guy to see if that's worthwhile considering our barren cupboards as is.
 
maxiep said:
This post makes no sense to me. Not calling you out personally, but rather the tweet.

Why would anyone leave Chicago or NY to make a lateral move to Portland? We're older, with an uncertain ownership situation in a smaller market.
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you would assume our role would not simply be GM, but rather President of Basketball Ops. Both of these guys are #2 in their current front offices.
 
maxiep said:
This post makes no sense to me. Not calling you out personally, but rather the tweet.

Why would anyone leave Chicago or NY to make a lateral move to Portland? We're older, with an uncertain ownership situation in a smaller market.
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Seems like they would only do it if they thought they were about to be fired.

In which case, why are we interested?
 
illmatic99 said:
i would bet anything CHI asks for compensation if we take on Eversely. perhaps dropping the protections on that pick. i dunno enough about that guy to see if that's worthwhile considering our barren cupboards as is.
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they could but they probably wouldn’t, as a courtesy to Eversely. That usually only happens when guys make lateral moves. Imagine the reason he doesn’t get the opportunity to run a team is because you demanded compensation. Not a good look.
 
Seems like more money could be one possible motivation?

barfo
 
barfo said:
Seems like more money could be one possible motivation?

barfo
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and the 20 or so mil jody just saved should mean we shouldn't let $ stop us from getting someone good.

im curious what happens at the deadline in february. whether we try to duck the tax should give us an indication about the motives for the future of the team.
 
tykendo said:
I've been an Olshey apologist, but last night was the final draw for me. It's not just the investigation, and the lack of making a deal. The fact that the Blazers have 5 end of the bench guys who CAN'T Play, at all is mindboggling. I wish we could part ways and bring up some G League shooters, and players, who at least have skills. I like the addition of Nance , and Zeller gives effort, but c'mon man. None of these guys can score. It's freaking embarrassing. People are staying away in droves. Last night's effort was pathetic. RoCo and Powell were the only ones who came to play. CJ looks like he's trying to suck, so teams won't trade for him. Nurk was classic Nurk. Tease us with a few good games, then look like a circus clown. Put some some guys around Dame who have heart & soul. So thanks Jody . Please allow Cronin to get this thing started.
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So much truth in here. Watching last night’s game was painful. I did watch to try and get a feel for the other guys but most of the 2nd 3rd string was like watching a college D2 game.
 
3putt said:
So much truth in here. Watching last night’s game was painful. I did watch to try and get a feel for the other guys but most of the 2nd 3rd string was like watching a college D2 game.
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it’s embarrassing that guys like Elleby and Blevins are active members of an NBA roster. No serious GM would waste spots, two way or not, on guys like that.
 
Some agents will immediately run their client's names out there just for leverage to try to negotiate something better where they are at.

But for almost all of those names, a GM/Pres of Bball Ops would be a step up from where they currently are.
 
The problem with CJ in a trade who actually wants a bloated contract and is more less one deminsional. It would team maybe competing for a championship that can use him for a 6 man maybe. But what we get back would be interesting you hope maybe one 1st in the deal. Nurk and Covington we be 2 players I would try to move at deadline because expiring contract and we need a more of rim protector and active center and Nurk just not rim protector and yes he gets a block here and there but so does CJ and Dame once and while. Roco he just haven't pickup Billups system and don't think he quick enough to play Billups style of defense.
 
I’m mostly happy that I don’t have to hear about Stotts or Olshey ever again. I have little faith anything will be done this season, as a new GM - if hired during the season - likely won’t start making major moves. Hope I’m wrong. The effort though of the players, that’s on THEM. And if anyone else - Billups. It’s his job to get them to play a certain way. It’s on the players to fucking play hard.
 
maxiep said:
This post makes no sense to me. Not calling you out personally, but rather the tweet.

Why would anyone leave Chicago or NY to make a lateral move to Portland? We're older, with an uncertain ownership situation in a smaller market.
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And would a team just let their GM walk to another team?
 
Maybe now that CJ knows he isn't safe he will start playing better
 
tykendo said:
I've been an Olshey apologist, but last night was the final draw for me. It's not just the investigation, and the lack of making a deal. The fact that the Blazers have 5 end of the bench guys who CAN'T Play, at all is mindboggling. I wish we could part ways and bring up some G League shooters, and players, who at least have skills. I like the addition of Nance , and Zeller gives effort, but c'mon man. None of these guys can score. It's freaking embarrassing. People are staying away in droves. Last night's effort was pathetic. RoCo and Powell were the only ones who came to play. CJ looks like he's trying to suck, so teams won't trade for him. Nurk was classic Nurk. Tease us with a few good games, then look like a circus clown. Put some some guys around Dame who have heart & soul. So thanks Jody . Please allow Cronin to get this thing started.
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that not I'm defending Olshey's moves (etc), but who are the 5 guys you speak of?

The only player on the team who has zero business being in the league (or on a professional basketball team of ANY sort) is Blevins.
 
Rebuild it! Let Dame rest up and heal.

Rebuild with a mix of youth (Ant, Nas, Brown) and move players and acquire a much better mix.

Nurkic = trade him

RoCo = trade him

CJ = trade him

get back one or two solid pieces and a couple nice draft picks. I am not one for building around picks because you’re gonna be very disappointed about 86% of the time…so get a parter for Dame and a couple “nucleus” players and rebuild.

But Nurkic, RoCo are bums and CJ might get us something?
 
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