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I don't care what all of you want to say but Meyers has put on 20 lbs of pure muscle and it absolutely cut. Total Beast!
There's a lot to like about Biebs - athleticism, work ethic, shooting touch, good teammate, generally a good dude...
He also has a lot of challenges - defense, BBIQ, immaturity,...

The problem is that no cure for low IQ and fragile psyche.
 
I don't care what all of you want to say but Meyers has put on 20 lbs of pure muscle and it absolutely cut. Total Beast!
He reminds me of one those big white guys who had long careers only because Shaq was in the league and not because of their skill. There is no Shaq anymore.
 
Caption it:

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"Coach, which way did the bad guys go?"

Penis Stretcher Time, Boy. . .
 
He reminds me of one those big white guys who had long careers only because Shaq was in the league and not because of their skill. There is no Shaq anymore.
If he starts playing to his strengths they will have to get big white guys to put in the league to cover him. Remember Meyers looks like that at 7 foot tall. I don't look like that and i'm only 6-3.
 
If we can get him to even approach 2015-16 then we trade him to clear up the log jam in the front court. Come on Meyers, you can be a little more than mediocre!
 
There's a lot to like about Biebs - athleticism, work ethic, shooting touch, good teammate, generally a good dude...
He also has a lot of challenges - defense, BBIQ, immaturity,...

The problem is that no cure for low IQ and fragile psyche.

He's not that athletic. He jumps low and slow and has terrible agility. He's pretty much just big, and now he's bigger, so I wouldn't expect him to be any quicker or jump any higher.
 
He's not that athletic. He jumps low and slow and has terrible agility. He's pretty much just big, and now he's bigger, so I wouldn't expect him to be any quicker or jump any higher.
Why do you think he's bigger? The Quick article said he's lighter than last year.

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He's not that athletic. He jumps low and slow and has terrible agility. He's pretty much just big, and now he's bigger, so I wouldn't expect him to be any quicker or jump any higher.
I was really just trying to say that he's good at some things, bad at others. There aren't many players, let alone centers, who can put the ball between their legs and dunk - he can. However, yes, he can't move his feet at all, which is a huge problem.
 
Why do you think he's bigger? The Quick article said he's lighter than last year.

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Because when someone sheds bulk and you don’t compare to a different picture side by side, it can look like they actually gained “ripped” muscle mass, due to the difference in ratio between shoulders, chest, and waist.
 
If he starts playing to his strengths they will have to get big white guys to put in the league to cover him. Remember Meyers looks like that at 7 foot tall. I don't look like that and i'm only 6-3.
Hahahahahahaha!
 
Vonleh's injury is something of a godsend, really, because it ensures there's a real competition for the job at the start of the season. Somebody else is going to get that chance to "look really good next to Nurkic", a phrase so synonymous with Vonleh I'm surprised it hasn't gained abbreviation status like RLEC or BPA.

I bet whoever gets the job at starting PF opening night will also be quickly labeled as looking really good next to Nurkic. Nurkic is a rising tide that lifts all boats.

Swanigan and Davis are probably the toughest fits next to Nurk--Swanigan because we'll have a miserable time covering the floor on defense with him at PF, and Davis because of his limited jump shot. Even those guys, though, should feast on the boards.
With Nurk eating double teams for breakfast, lunch, and dinner I would expect those two to both average double figure rebounds if they get starter minutes. They are relentless rebounders especially on the offensive end. It'll be hard not to play Biggie eventually because he will create second and third opportunities constantly on the offensive end. That is a recipe for getting blown out against us, we can be average on the other side of the ball if we can make sure we dominate the boards night in and night out.
 
I'm confused. It doesn't say anything about gaining "20lbs of pure muscle"...
Actually it does, a picture is worth 1000 words..... He's obviously ripped from the pic. Certainly way more that Biggie or Nurk.
 
Actually it does, a picture is worth 1000 words..... He's obviously ripped from the pic. Certainly way more that Biggie or Nurk.

He's been that ripped. I don't see much of a difference.

That pic is worth the 1000 words you can make up in your head but not necessarily the truth. Because the truth is that he lost weight.

20 lbs of pure muscle... LOL.
 
Actually it does, a picture is worth 1000 words..... He's obviously ripped from the pic. Certainly way more that Biggie or Nurk.
He's always been in good shape and muscular; that's never been the issue. The problem is that he plays small and has almost no feel for the game when it comes to playing within a team's defensive scheme.
 
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It's possible to lose weight and get stronger. Not like it really matters with Leonard because up to this point at least, he hasn't shown any understanding of how to actually use his strength.
 
He's been that ripped. I don't see much of a difference.

That pic is worth the 1000 words you can make up in your head but not necessarily the truth. Because the truth is that he lost weight.

20 lbs of pure muscle... LOL.

Again, just speculation on my part, I can't read his mind either.
 
I was commenting on the picture. He actually lost weight and got leaner. But added tone. That seems to be the consensus from the interviews and statements made in the media.
 
I was commenting on the picture. He actually lost weight and got leaner. But added tone. That seems to be the consensus from the interviews and statements made in the media.

That seems to be the consensus for every player, every year at the beginning of training camp. He's always had a good physique, but there's a difference between cosmetic musculature and functional strength. And neither matters if you don't use it when it counts.


In reading this thread, after these many years I'm a little stunned anyone can take anything this guy says and get their hopes up. What's that saying, "Fool me five times, shame on you..."?
 
I'm fine with his body strength, how about his mental strength? Did that improve? It is the question we all want answered.
 
That seems to be the consensus for every player, every year at the beginning of training camp. He's always had a good physique, but there's a difference between cosmetic musculature and functional strength. And neither matters if you don't use it when it counts.


In reading this thread, after these many years I'm a little stunned anyone can take anything this guy says and get their hopes up. What's that saying, "Fool me five times, shame on you..."?
Oh, I know that it's shame on me if he lets me down again. All good. I'll happily take the bandwagon driver's seat, and if it breaks down, I won't even try to hitch a ride during my lonely hike back to town.
But if I'm right about him... :party:
 
He's always been in good shape and muscular, that's never been the issue. The problem is that he plays small and has almost no feel for the game when it comes to playing within a team's defensive scheme.
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That seems to be the consensus for every player, every year at the beginning of training camp. He's always had a good physique, but there's a difference between cosmetic musculature and functional strength. And neither matters if you don't use it when it counts.


In reading this thread, after these many years I'm a little stunned anyone can take anything this guy says and get their hopes up. What's that saying, "Fool me five times, shame on you..."?
Sorry. Not the consensus on every player at any time of any year. Never has been and absolutely never will be. Your dislike of Meyers has deluded you. The guy worked very hard this summer. Try giving the guy credit where it is due.
 
Sorry. Not the consensus on every player at any time of any year. Never has been and absolutely never will be. Your dislike of Meyers has deluded you. The guy worked very hard this summer. Try giving the guy credit where it is due.

Oh I see the problem, you took my statement literally... Clearly my point is that this is the time of year when players talk about what they've worked on over the off-season and express their optimism for the upcoming season... Nobody comes in and says they slacked off and got a little chubby eating donuts or that they feel like they've gotten worse since last season. I'm not breaking any news here...

I don't dislike Meyers, at all. You must have me mistaken for some other anonymous person on the internet that you don't know. I've rooted for him every season. And I've given him credit where credit is due- I've never doubted he works hard. But after all his hard work and after all the training camp optimism, year after year, where are we? ... Right about where we started his rookie year.

Maybe 6th time's the charm.
 
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