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Democrats have a $1.9T covid relief package. Republicans are filibustering it.

Therefore, we should take the politics out of it, and push Democrats harder to get action.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Democrats have a $1.9T covid relief package. Republicans are filibustering it.

Therefore, we should take the politics out of it, and push Democrats harder to get action.

barfo
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Why is it so hard to make it dollar-for-dollar COVID-related and no extras....period?
 
ABM said:
Why is it so hard to make it dollar-for-dollar COVID-related and no extras....period?
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What do you consider extras?

Not that it matters, since your party lost bigly. Elections have consequences, and all that.

barfo
 
barfo said:
What do you consider extras?

Not that it matters, since your party lost bigly. Elections have consequences, and all that.

barfo
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Anything extra. Is that really that hard to figure out? Dems are in control now. Get it done.
 
ABM said:
Anything extra. Is that really that hard to figure out?
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One man's extra is another man's essential. I was asking for your view, but you don't have to provide it.

But another answer to your question - they need to do as much via reconciliation as possible, since Republicans will block everything else. Therefore one big bill is much better than any other number of smaller bills.

Dems are in control now. Get it done.
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They are.

barfo
 
barfo said:
One man's extra is another man's essential...Therefore one big bill is much better than any other number of smaller bills.
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So you like to impress cashiers.
 
barfo said:
It's what they do. Google it if you need to.

barfo
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OK, well pardon my ignorance. I thought they had relinquished that ability CIRCA: 2021.
 
ABM said:
OK, well pardon my ignorance.
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By the power vested in me by S2, I hereby grant you a full and unconditional pardon for your ignorance.
This pardon was supported by many people, including Sean Hannity and Mike Lindell.

barfo
 
Road Ratt said:
GOP Senator Marco Rubio Calls For $2,000 Stimulus Checks To Heal ‘Divided Nation’.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahh...hecks-to-heal-divided-nation/?sh=399d36df6c9c

I am not a fan of Rubio's. But if he can get on board with $2,000 stimulus checks in a stand alone bill without political game play. It seems to show there is support from republicans.

The 1.9 trillion dollar package, is what both parties will fight over. While Americans die.

This is bigger than Katrina. Lack of action by our government is inexcusable.
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Agreed. Lack of action by our government since this pandemic hit is without a question inexcusable. It's been a year. Biden has been in office for 12 whole days.
 
barfo said:
By the power vested in me by S2, I hereby grant you a full and unconditional pardon for your ignorance.
This pardon was supported by many people, including Sean Hannity and Mike Lindell.

barfo
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Well, pardon me, but I doubt they support you in any way.
 
Road Ratt said:
I understand when I watched Biden fight for $2,000 checks immediately to Americans if the democrats won Georgia. Now I don't see that same fight in him anymore now that he is in office.

Before we go further. Look at it from a social aspect. Americans are literally dying every single day without that money. We can either make excuses for our governments inaction while there is an American disaster happening right in front of our eyes. Or we can see that we are in an unprecedented crisis, and that Americans are dying by the day without that money. Americans shouldn't have to wait in line for handouts, get them that cash now so they can get home and keep us all safe by not catching Covid because they have no options but to have to go out.

I wish that the people that I support would push the democrats harder to get action right now. Americans are dying, maybe we can all see the tragedy and stop looking at the political aspects of this situation. Thanks.

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Americans are getting kicked out of their homes and are living in their car or a tent under a bridge.
 
illmatic99 said:
also, i don't understand the need for direct payment stimulus checks for people who still have jobs. expand unemployment, help small businesses, stop evictions, raise minimum wage, figure out vaccine rollout, expand testing, start devising a plan for schools.

what need is there to put $2000 unnecessarily in hands of people who are already getting paychecks?
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How about those that wish they would get a meal, escape a homeless life or those not qualified because they make more than the $ cutoff? Two opposite sides of economic disparity.
 
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Hoopguru said:
Is it ever possible for the Gov to provide a financial package without political pork?
Term limits and a restrictions on lobbyist contributions would help a ton.
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First, I would like to see a bill completely devoted to American people rather than foreigner programs attached into the package.
Second, The public should view the scope of the bill and the politicians who sponsored their bullshit agenda.
Third, The American people should have a forum so they will be directly involved in denouncing the politicians that sponsored inane and ridiculous programs.
The American public may not have control on the final Congressional vote but would be able to observe if their representatives deserve to stay or be booted out the next time they vote.
 
Minstrel said:
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No US President degrades their intelligence as far down as Trump had demonstrated on this platform..
 
julius said:
Weird, the GOP didn't want Trump sued because he was President, but now...
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Cruz would approve. However, everyone views him as an idiotic asshole, because he let Trump insult his wife, step on him in the primaries and then supported Trump by being a phone bank solicitor. The fact he stands with Trump, shows he is a dog who wants scraps from his master. Just my honest opinion.....
 
illmatic99 said:
also, i don't understand the need for direct payment stimulus checks for people who still have jobs. expand unemployment, help small businesses, stop evictions, raise minimum wage, figure out vaccine rollout, expand testing, start devising a plan for schools.

what need is there to put $2000 unnecessarily in hands of people who are already getting paychecks?
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Administration is a huge reason. Sure, what you said sounds great. Get checks to only those without jobs. How? Have people sign up if they lost a job? That went horribly in state unemployment offices.

Also, someone who lost their job could have a million dollars in the bank.

The Feds have IRS tax information they can use to get money into peoples accounts the fastest. If that means some people still have jobs then so be it. The income thresholds imo are a tad high for most areas, but in Cali, 150,000 for a family is still chump change.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
Administration is a huge reason. Sure, what you said sounds great. Get checks to only those without jobs. How? Have people sign up if they lost a job? That went horribly in state unemployment offices.

Also, someone who lost their job could have a million dollars in the bank.

The Feds have IRS tax information they can use to get money into peoples accounts the fastest. If that means some people still have jobs then so be it. The income thresholds imo are a tad high for most areas, but in Cali, 150,000 for a family is still chump change.
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ya, i totally understand the logistical issues and the income/cost of living disparity. I'm actually considering moving to the bay area and was caught with a shock when i read that 300k is considered middle class for a family of four. But i was more referring to the big picture.

I think we are well past the stage of "fastest," and also past the stage of putting a bandaid on a gunshot wound (which is what the stimulus is). Since we're already delayed, let's do it right and actually place more emphasis on people/situations that need help, rather than a blanket solution for everything.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
Administration is a huge reason. Sure, what you said sounds great. Get checks to only those without jobs. How? Have people sign up if they lost a job? That went horribly in state unemployment offices.

Also, someone who lost their job could have a million dollars in the bank.

The Feds have IRS tax information they can use to get money into peoples accounts the fastest. If that means some people still have jobs then so be it. The income thresholds imo are a tad high for most areas, but in Cali, 150,000 for a family is still chump change.
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Since the IRS has that advantage, the Feds should be sure former politicians don't get any of it. Those people squirreled their way into nice "after office" circumstances. IMO
 
illmatic99 said:
ya, i totally understand the logistical issues and the income/cost of living disparity. I'm actually considering moving to the bay area and was caught with a shock when i read that 300k is considered middle class for a family of four. But i was more referring to the big picture.

I think we are well past the stage of "fastest," and also past the stage of putting a bandaid on a gunshot wound (which is what the stimulus is). Since we're already delayed, let's do it right and actually place more emphasis on people/situations that need help, rather than a blanket solution for everything.
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People that really need the money need it now. I think we still are at the fastest stage. $600 wasn't enough.
 
Anyone angry about the 2k stimulus check should point that anger at the GOP for whittling it down to 600 bucks the first time and balking on the package for 1400 as soon as it hit the table....Joe is undertaking a lot of damage control right now...I'm actually impressed with how fast he's moving on a variety of issues....mostly dealing with climate and covid....Trump left a goddamned mess and virtually no transition assistance in a pandemic.....support Joe...he's doing what he can do right now and it's more than we've seen in 4 years....he's extended unemployment benefits already which has helped my wife out and my daughter in law...both unable to return to their fields of work ..I'm grateful for what help they've recieved...they'll pass a stimulus...the GOP needs to stop partisan posturing and fix it's own warts
 
stampedehero said:
Cruz would approve. However, everyone views him as an idiotic asshole, because he let Trump insult his wife, step on him in the primaries and then supported Trump by being a phone bank solicitor. The fact he stands with Trump, shows he is a dog who wants scraps from his master. Just my honest opinion.....
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He doesn't deserve to be lumped in with dogs. Dogs, as every little boy knows, are absolutely delightful companions.
 
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