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illmatic99 said:
ya, i totally understand the logistical issues and the income/cost of living disparity. I'm actually considering moving to the bay area and was caught with a shock when i read that 300k is considered middle class for a family of four. But i was more referring to the big picture.

I think we are well past the stage of "fastest," and also past the stage of putting a bandaid on a gunshot wound (which is what the stimulus is). Since we're already delayed, let's do it right and actually place more emphasis on people/situations that need help, rather than a blanket solution for everything.
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The government is terrible at that. Just giving people money is the best thing to do. You can do more for those who need more, but that's the first step.
 
Road Ratt said:
"Not Doing This Is a Choice": Biden Drags His Feet on Canceling Student Debt Despite Campaign Pledge.

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Student debt is sort of a hypocritical hill to die on IMO. White liberals want to talk about privilege? Look at the racial and economic demographics of college graduates. Cancellation of student debt equates to the underprivileged working class paying off more affluent peoples debts. It’s kind of bullshit when you really think about it.
Making college education free would be another story, however.
 
Im glad as hell Joe beat out Trump but Im not sure he would have pushed to get the vaccine in the time period we have?
 
Road Ratt said:
Police Guard Dumpster Of Food, Protecting Profits Over People.



Disgusting.
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whats disgusting? The media spin put on this?


Its the law to discard food and not give it out when endangered of spoiling.
Not only that but Fred Meyers donates a shit ton a year already.

Fred Meyer was only following procedure and protecting themselves from potential lawsuits and fines.

This is a nonstory being propped up by big media bias.

but the left doesn't have fake news. Just Trumps media....

lol.
 
I'm annoyed that this dude is talking about gun control while we're in the middle of COVID. Homeboy needs to be focused on the economy and getting us out of this mess. Guns shouldn't even be in the top 3-4 things on his mind right now. Also, it's one of the most contentious topics and he seriously didn't even wait a few months to bring that shit up after the most divisive presidential election in history?

I guess the Dems figure they have the house, the senate, and the white house and they're going to cram their agenda down our throats and pissing off the 70 million who voted against them be damned. We literally just had a bunch of maniacs storm Congress a month ago and they're really going after one of the most hot button topics in our country? Really? Really?
 
If the professional victim class (aka “Republicans”) had any idea how much stores like Freddie’s, Safeway, etc donate to local food banks, they’d shut their ignorant mouths and slink away utterly ashamed.....but then, they wouldn’t know charity if it bit them in the ass.......
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
If the professional victim class (aka “Republicans”) had any idea how much stores like Freddie’s, Safeway, etc donate to local food banks, they’d shut their ignorant mouths and slink away utterly ashamed.....but then, they wouldn’t know charity if it bit them in the ass.......
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Come on man, I don't think that's fair. I know a lot of conservatives who go to church and participate in a lot of charities. I really wish people would get away from these generalizations.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Come on man, I don't think that's fair. I know a lot of conservatives who go to church and participate in a lot of charities. I really wish people would get away from these generalizations.
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Then they need to step up and prove it. Gotta wonder how many voted for Trump, not just once but twice. Unfortunately the vast number of Republicans I am acquainted with (admittedly...and thankfully few) are some of the most selfish, me first individuals I have ever met. They stand for small government yet act like the world owes them a living. Consistency is not their strong suit. It’s fuck everybody else until they need something. Maybe I need to get out more.....but it is what it is and I stand by my opinion. “Christianity” is subjective....
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
Then they need to step up and prove it. Gotta wonder how many voted for Trump, not just once but twice. Unfortunately the vast number of Republicans I am acquainted with (admittedly...and thankfully few) are some of the most selfish, me first individuals I have ever met. They stand for small government yet act like the world owes them a living. Consistency is not their strong suit. It’s fuck everybody else until they need something. Maybe I need to get out more.....but it is what it is and I stand by my opinion. “Christianity” is subjective....
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The wall donations come to mind...Steve Bannon had fun with that donation drive
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
Then they need to step up and prove it. Gotta wonder how many voted for Trump, not just once but twice. Unfortunately the vast number of Republicans I am acquainted with (admittedly...and thankfully few) are some of the most selfish, me first individuals I have ever met. They stand for small government yet act like the world owes them a living. Consistency is not their strong suit. It’s fuck everybody else until they need something. Maybe I need to get out more.....but it is what it is and I stand by my opinion. “Christianity” is subjective....
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My point is that these kinds of sweeping generalizations about any group is dangerous.

Portland is largely Democrat. In the Presidential election, 1,340,383 voted for Biden in Oregon and nearly half of those were in the metro area. 365,000 voted for Biden in Multnomah county in this last election which was about 80% of the vote in that county. Another 200k voted for him in Washington County which was about 65%. So when you see someone being a jackass on the road, or cutting in line at the supermarket, or hoarding toilet paper, at least in Portland, it's a pretty damn good chance it's a Democrat.
 
Natebishop3 said:
My point is that these kinds of sweeping generalizations about any group is dangerous.

Portland is largely Democrat. In the Presidential election, 1,340,383 voted for Biden in Oregon and nearly half of those were in the metro area. 365,000 voted for Biden in Multnomah county in this last election which was about 80% of the vote in that county. Another 200k voted for him in Washington County which was about 65%. So when you see someone being a jackass on the road, or cutting in line at the supermarket, or hoarding toilet paper, at least in Portland, it's a pretty damn good chance it's a Democrat.
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I'm hanging onto my sweeping generalizations about Proud Boys, Nazis or any large group that has intentions to harm Americans to promote their agenda....and now after the riot in DC I'm hanging onto my sweeping generalizations about the leadership of the GOP......after what transpired that political party has destroyed any semblance of truth, honor and trust......to the GOP members that did stand up for democracy....many are leaving that party now....some generalizations need to apply to dangerous movements like the insurrection. There comes a time when handing out reasonable doubt cards to people for bad behavior has to stop....and personally I'll cite another sweeping generalization...rioters in Portland were more than likely not registered Democrats.....my guess is most didn't even bother to vote but like being in a street gang and breaking shit...those arsonists were not organized in Portland...they were random. They should be locked up for breaking shit .....no double standard...break the law, pay the price...they do not represent dviss, Dame and all the good folks marching for racial equality at all.....those folks are to be commended for being proactive and standing up...the NBA supports the BLM movement...even made jerseys and courtside slogans about it...I take pride that the Blazers organization came out in support of BLM...along with the rest of the league....I agree with them...white privilege needs to be held accountable.
 
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UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
Then they need to step up and prove it. Gotta wonder how many voted for Trump, not just once but twice. Unfortunately the vast number of Republicans I am acquainted with (admittedly...and thankfully few) are some of the most selfish, me first individuals I have ever met. They stand for small government yet act like the world owes them a living. Consistency is not their strong suit. It’s fuck everybody else until they need something. Maybe I need to get out more.....but it is what it is and I stand by my opinion. “Christianity” is subjective....
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what? i must be pig fodder then?

among many things i give for, im setting up a tree limb chop for the church next door. And im not even Christian, let alone religious!
I think you may need to get out more. :)

ive lived in Co, alaska, oregon, washington and ny for extended time. Ive never met more selfish people on average than oregon.

This state is a democratic state imo.
 
riverman said:
I'm hanging onto my sweeping generalizations about Proud Boys, Nazis or any large group that has intentions to harm Americans to promote their agenda....and now after the riot in DC I'm hanging onto my sweeping generalizations about the leadership of the GOP......after what transpired that political party has destroyed any semblance of truth, honor and trust......to the GOP members that did stand up for democracy....many are leaving that party now....some generalizations need to apply to dangerous movements like the insurrection. There comes a time when handing out reasonable doubt cards to people for bad behavior has to stop....and personally I'll cite another sweeping generalization...rioters in Portland were more than likely not registered Democrats.....my guess is most didn't even bother to vote but like being in a street gang and breaking shit...those arsonists were not organized in Portland...they were random. They should be locked up for breaking shit .....no double standard...break the law, pay the price...they do not represent dviss, Dame and all the good folks marching for racial equality at all.....those folks are to be commended for being proactive and standing up...the NBA supports the BLM movement...even made jerseys and courtside slogans about it...I take pride that the Blazers organization came out in support of BLM...along with the rest of the league....I agree with them...white privilege needs to be held accountable.
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I don't think you have to make generalizations about the proud boys or the Nazis. They make their platform very clear. There's nothing to really generalize.

But when we start generalizing Republicans, and not even registered Republicans, but just Republicans in general, that's a very wide net to cast. While if you live in Portland, there really aren't very many people who identify as Republicans or Conservatives, and the numbers back that up. So if you run into an asshole in Portland, there's a really good chance they're a registered Democrat or they identify as a Democrat.
 
Orion Bailey said:
Ive never met more selfish people on average than oregon.
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I'm just going to say, maybe you need to get out more.....Portland is deep blue....most of rural oregon is actually red....when a windstorm dropped trees on my neighbors house years ago we all showed up with chainsaws to help.....when someone got robbed we all started a neighborhood watch.....every crisis Oregonians showed up to help....I distributed food to seniors as did my son with the Gleaners program....the local library exist because of retired folks volunteering to run programs for free...the local cops have weekly meeting to air concerns of the locals......it's not Hatfields and McCoys in my Oregon..nobody talks politics much when we help each other...it is more divisive in the OT section here though
 
riverman said:
sure there is....racism....and it's a fact...they promote it..so when I mention them....I believe my stereotype holds true.
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I thought I made that point clear when I said they are very open about their platform?
 
Natebishop3 said:
I thought I made that point clear when I said they are very open about their platform?
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sure...which is why I made myself clear about why I generalize them.....the GOP under MAGA was very open about it's platform too.....to the country's detriment
 
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riverman said:
sure...which is why I made myself clear about why I generalize them.....the GOP under MAGA was very open about its platform too.....to the country's detriment
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FIFY. You're welcome.
 
RR7 said:
Whew. Glad we got that taken care of.
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Yeah, it was pretty much obligatory on my part as he's been pining to be my life coach for some time now. Good grammar is always a good show.
 
riverman said:
I disagree....stolen goods or hidden drug stashes are not public property!
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True, I'm talking about private property that is discarded. This would mean rightful private property.
 
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