Politics The Joe Biden Thread (2 Viewers)

[crandc]

This is one time I disagree with Lanny. In general people with more education are likelier to be open to new ideas, less prejudiced and more progressive. But there are certainly exceptions.

Some people are called to be auto mechanics, chefs, ballet dancers. They are far from stupid, highly skilled. We need more of them and could probably manage with fewer lawyers.

 

[KristinthBonkers]

This is really just so far from the truth.

Everybody who goes to trade school is apparently low IQ if I’m reading what they said correctly.

Talk about elitism. I have my J.D. and thankfully had a dad who grew up learning how to work on cars, wire a house, fix pipes, had a workshop with welding, etc. etc. Smartest person I knew and ended up owning his own general contracting company.

How insulting to base IQ on whether somebody goes to college or not. Oregon is dumbing down requirements right now to graduate kids from HS and get into college. Apparently math and science don’t matter anymore, but let’s all learn about how awful this country is from teachers with a BA.

 

[KristinthBonkers]

This is one time I disagree with Lanny. In general people with more education are likelier to be open to new ideas, less prejudiced and more progressive. But there are certainly exceptions.

Some people are called to be auto mechanics, chefs, ballet dancers. They are far from stupid, highly skilled. We need more of them and could probably manage with fewer lawyers.

As an attorney, I agree with this post 100%. I’m considering leaving the profession because and going full time into the marijuana business with some business people I’ve met over the years. I already have invested in the largest shop in Vegas with some college friends and it’s thriving. I’d rather people smoke or eat edibles than drink alcohol. I don’t drink but I like some indica a few times a week at night.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Everybody who goes to trade school is apparently low IQ if I’m reading what they said correctly.

Talk about elitism. I have my J.D. and thankfully had a dad who grew up learning how to work on cars, wire a house, fix pipes, had a workshop with welding, etc. etc. Smartest person I knew and ended up owning his own general contracting company.

How insulting to base IQ on whether somebody goes to college or not. Oregon is dumbing down requirements right now to graduate kids from HS and get into college. Apparently math and science don’t matter anymore, but let’s all learn about how awful this country is from teachers with a BA.

My dad dropped out of HS two months into his sophomore year. His reasons were multiple and legit. But he knew he was wasting his time. So he went to work and eventually build a company that made him a wealthy man. I personally credit it to native intelligence, above average common sense, hard work and an indomitable will. He had more to overcome than most. And in his 89 years of life I never, EVER saw him crack open a book. The only thing I ever saw him read was the newspaper (and barber shop porn mags while waiting for a haircut). A lot of apologists for higher education will say, “Well that was a different time and era”. Bullshit. It boils down to the individual and what they are willing to put themselves through in order to succeed. Always has, always will. The “value” of higher education is a smoke and mirrors game for profit, and puts the student so far behind the eight ball they can rarely catch up. But again, with only a community college education, I’m barely literate enough to type this, so what do I know? But I’m sure our resident oracle will guide our paths to enlightenment……….

 

[ABM]

But back to you (since you made it about you), the only thing I ever questioned about you is your common sense……and that’s subjective anyway…..

At times, we all make things about ourselves, respectively, but I digress. Not certain what you've questioned about my common sense. But, yeah, that's certainly subjective. And, after all, this is a message board, soooo...there's that, too.

 

[barfo]

A formal education does not automatically bestow intelligence, only “knowledge”.

Disagree with the "only knowledge" portion. In fact, I'd argue that knowledge isn't the most important thing. Learning how to learn things is more important than the things learned. Learning how to make arguments is more important than the arguments made. Learning how to have lots of sex is more important than... oh, never mind.

The “value” of higher education is a smoke and mirrors game for profit, and puts the student so far behind the eight ball they can rarely catch up.

I think it depends very much on the individual. Some people get a huge amount out of college and it transforms their lives. Some people get nothing at all from it but debt and a few hundred hangovers.

I'd count myself more among the latter group, but I've seen some of my friends and former classmates in the former group.

barfo

 

[Hoopguru]

Disagree with the "only knowledge" portion. In fact, I'd argue that knowledge isn't the most important thing. Learning how to learn things is more important than the things learned. Learning how to make arguments is more important than the arguments made. Learning how to have lots of sex is more important than... oh, never mind.



I think it depends very much on the individual. Some people get a huge amount out of college and it transforms their lives. Some people get nothing at all from it but debt and a few hundred hangovers.

I'd count myself more among the latter group, but I've seen some of my friends and former classmates in the former group.

barfo

yeah the two ways of learning
1 - Hebrew Way - learn by doing
2 - Greek Way - Learn learn learn and never get around to doing anything

 

[ABM]

2 - Greek Way - Learn learn learn and never get around to doing anything

I was in corporate for 20 years. Yeah, analysis paralysis was my bane. That, and focus groups.

 

[crandc]

Learning isn't just a tool. Sure, get education and skills to earn a living but learning is even better for its own sake. Because something is interesting. Because people with a range of interests are more interesting.

 

[ABM]

Learning isn't just a tool. Sure, get education and skills to earn a living but learning is even better for its own sake. Because something is interesting. Because people with a range of interests are more interesting.

I'm more in to interactive/group learning, as opposed to books and lectures.

 

[barfo]

I'm more in to interactive/group learning, as opposed to books and lectures.

So actually, 'learning' isn't a synonym for 'sex'. Your usage of the word is incorrect.

barfo

 

[ABM]

So actually, 'learning' isn't a synonym for 'sex'. Your usage of the word is incorrect.

barfo

Huh? You must be single.

 

[barfo]

Huh?

It's a joke. I was pretending that you meant you were into group sex.

barfo

 

[ABM]

It's a joke. I was pretending that you meant you were into group sex.

barfo

I used to be.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[crandc]

Cards have soured? I heard of milk souring but cards?

 

[Voodoo]

The tweet heard around the world… by 14 other people. When I first started reading this I was hoping this would be a parody of a qanon supporter, unfortunately I don’t think it is.

 

[KristinthBonkers]

Clearly a massive movement, right? 14 Likes, watch out, America!

Speaking of conspiracy kooks. I remember when saying an election was stolen was an acceptable point of view for Democrats to the point there were numerous investigations, including a Special Prosecutor. Again, the utter hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance of rabid partisans is alarming and frankly, sad. Cable news rots the mind for both the Right and Left.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-trump-is-an-illegitimate-president/2019/09/26/29195d5a-e099-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html?outputType=amp

Hillary Clinton: Trump is an ‘illegitimate president’


September 26, 2019 at 5:03 p.m. EDT

Hillary Clinton dismissed President Trump as an “illegitimate president” and suggested that “he knows” that he stole the 2016 presidential election in a CBS News interview to be aired Sunday.

 

[ABM]

.......Cable news rots the mind for both the Right and Left.....

I used to regularly watch Fox News on TV (albeit, their printed version shows up on my cell phone's news feed from time to time), but I quit watching it when they refused to concede last year's election. The rants were incessant and boorish. I don't miss it.

 

[Lanny]

This is one time I disagree with Lanny. In general people with more education are likelier to be open to new ideas, less prejudiced and more progressive. But there are certainly exceptions.

Some people are called to be auto mechanics, chefs, ballet dancers. They are far from stupid, highly skilled. We need more of them and could probably manage with fewer lawyers.

I never said nor inferred there weren't exceptions. Take my father for example, one of the most learned men I've ever met, and he barely graduated from a rural high school in Alabama.

 

[ABM]

Everybody who goes to trade school is apparently low IQ if I’m reading what they said correctly.

Talk about elitism. I have my J.D. and thankfully had a dad who grew up learning how to work on cars, wire a house, fix pipes, had a workshop with welding, etc. etc. Smartest person I knew and ended up owning his own general contracting company.

How insulting to base IQ on whether somebody goes to college or not. Oregon is dumbing down requirements right now to graduate kids from HS and get into college. Apparently math and science don’t matter anymore, but let’s all learn about how awful this country is from teachers with a BA.

While a bit campy/raunchy at times, this was a pretty funny movie back in the day. Rodney Dangerfield tore that college up!!

 

[ABM]

Ruh roh,,,,,,

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/02/politics/kamala-harris-office-dynamics/index.html

White House goes into damage control mode after reports of dysfunction in Kamala Harris' office

(CNN)The White House dove into damage control this week after reports of dysfunction and infighting in Vice President Kamala Harris' office, with the administration trying to stop a drama-filled narrative from taking hold, according to five people who spoke to CNN about the dynamics within Harris' office.

Two people close to Harris' team said some individuals inside the vice president's office are frustrated with what they see as a dysfunctional operation that has been at times waylaid by internal conflict. Some of that ire is directed squarely at Harris' chief of staff, Tina Flournoy, those people said. Another source close to the staff said there were "challenges and struggles" and heard complaints about Flournoy from staff, but denied it amounted to dysfunction or that the tensions were directly Flournoy's fault.

Sabrina Singh, deputy press secretary to the vice president, told CNN in a statement that Harris' focus remains on her work.

"The Vice President and her office are focused on the Biden-Harris Administration's agenda to build an economy from the middle out and the bottom up, not the top down, to making sure racial equity is at the core of everything the Administration does, to combatting the existential threat of climate change, and to continue protecting the American people from the Covid-19 pandemic," Singh said................

 

[MARIS61]

https://www.oann.com/report-biden-h...most-expensive-white-house-payroll-in-history

 

[Lanny]

https://www.oann.com/report-biden-h...most-expensive-white-house-payroll-in-history

I would say it has to be Trump's White House with all the loot they stole from the U.S. government.

 

[PDXFonz]

Some 70 year old wearing a “Joe and the Hoe got to go” hat didn’t like me telling him “nice hat” - “oh you like that” - “No, not really. Actually, I think it’s pretty trashy”.

Then he told me to grow up.
So I asked him his age.
And said… I need to grow up? You are 70 years old wearing that hat!!
He told me it’s America.
Then he told me to shut up.
So I told him… It’s America.

And after he was done processing whether or not the constitution gives me the same right to call him out as it does for him to wear his shitty hat - he told me in a minute we were going to have problems.

As I stood with my back to him in line I kept checking the watch which wasn’t on my wrist.

I think the old fart realized he had been defeated.

 

[jlprk]

Then to top it off, you ordered the last fish sandwich and I had to go with fries only! At least I gained a watch out of it.

 

[crandc]

Been hard to whip up hate against Biden. Mild mannered white male septuagenarian who attends Mass every Sunday? Best they can do is pity, slow senile old man helpless prey of rapacious women. Pelosi and Ocasio-Cortez are Congresswomen, not close enough. Jill Biden stays in background. That leaves Kamala Harris. The new Hillary.

 

[Hoopguru]

Been hard to whip up hate against Biden. Mild mannered white male septuagenarian who attends Mass every Sunday? Best they can do is pity, slow senile old man helpless prey of rapacious women. Pelosi and Ocasio-Cortez are Congresswomen, not close enough. Jill Biden stays in background. That leaves Kamala Harris. The new Hillary.

Lol…..jk couldn’t resist or I guess I could have

 

[Voodoo]

Some 70 year old wearing a “Joe and the Hoe got to go” hat didn’t like me telling him “nice hat” - “oh you like that” - “No, not really. Actually, I think it’s pretty trashy”.

Then he told me to grow up.
So I asked him his age.
And said… I need to grow up? You are 70 years old wearing that hat!!
He told me it’s America.
Then he told me to shut up.
So I told him… It’s America.

And after he was done processing whether or not the constitution gives me the same right to call him out as it does for him to wear his shitty hat - he told me in a minute we were going to have problems.

As I stood with my back to him in line I kept checking the watch which wasn’t on my wrist.

I think the old fart realized he had been defeated.

Its amazing how often folks like that want to be able to offend others without repercussions. But right when you do the exact same thing they have incredibly thin skin and are terribly offended by doing exactly the same behavior they are doing. It’s ironic to me how often this seems to happen.

 

[KristinthBonkers]

I’m sure those who served/are serving overseas are happy you won’t answer tough questions about the Taliban taking over Afghanistan because it’s a holiday weekend, Joe. What kind of ice cream will he have this weekend?