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I don't think Trump will run again. Nothing was more humiliating to him than losing in 2020 and he's not going to open himself up to that risk again. Especially when he's not likely to even escape the Republican primaries, which would be particularly galling for a former President.
 
Minstrel said:
I don't think Trump will run again. Nothing was more humiliating to him than losing in 2020 and he's not going to open himself up to that risk again. Especially when he's not likely to even escape the Republican primaries, which would be particularly galling for a former President.
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Gotta escape prosecution first.
 
Minstrel said:
I don't think Trump will run again. Nothing was more humiliating to him than losing in 2020 and he's not going to open himself up to that risk again. Especially when he's not likely to even escape the Republican primaries, which would be particularly galling for a former President.
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Don't be so certain. Trump is a brash, odd duck that way.
 
Minstrel said:
I don't think Trump will run again. Nothing was more humiliating to him than losing in 2020 and he's not going to open himself up to that risk again. Especially when he's not likely to even escape the Republican primaries, which would be particularly galling for a former President.
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I think he'll start his own political party.

He'll get to keep the majority of the money his donors give and he'll blame the republican party for his loss for not supporting him.
 
Hoopguru said:
Yeah, at 71 Ive seen it happen over time. People just seem more interested in taking sides and no prisoners anymore. Man, I too worry everyday about my adult kids and young grandkids.
My grandson that is going into high school just got chastised by his best friends parents for getting vaccinated, which really pissed me off.
My 15 year old granddaughter was grabbed by an antifa dude downtown because she had a Youth for Christ shirt on. Im not religious but I dont have a problem with friends or family that want to be. Its their freedom of choice. Others shouldn't not get physical with kids because of their contrary believes. Touch my grandkids in front of me wouldn't be a good idea.
Im amazed at all the graffiti and garbage in many parts of our city.
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Its depressing and frustrating to say the least. I wouldnt even let my kids go downtown at this point. And if some parents chastised my kids about being vaccinated....oh man...I hope i'd be able to maintain composure.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I think he'll start his own political party.

He'll get to keep the majority of the money his donors give and he'll blame the republican party for his loss for not supporting him.
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I would love that. Especially if he ran people of his new party in House and Senate races. I have no problem with Democratic control of all three branches for the foreseeable future!
 
crandc said:
I did like Biden saying he is president and buck stops with him. After four years of every time something went wrong so called president whined about how unfair it was to him.
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It’s like with sexual assault allegations. One side bows out and the other denies and makes excuses. There isn’t accountability from the right.
 
Do you think it is entirely Biden's fault that the Afghan government and military both surrendered? Are they blameless?

barfo
 
crandc said:
I'm a humanist. I care about people and animals suffering. I'm a feminist. I care about women and girls taken as sex slaves, denied education and forced out of workforce.
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Understood. I as well care about all those things. But I hate when people who have never given a shit about those things all of a sudden care. All of a sudden every Trump supporter and FOX News anchor is concerned about all the things you mentioned above for the first time in their lives.
 
THE HCP said:
Understood. I as well care about all those things. But I hate when people who have never given a shit about those things all of a sudden care. All of a sudden every Trump supporter and FOX News anchor is concerned about all the things you mentioned above for the first time in their lives.
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Oh sure, just like 20 years ago when they suddenly cared about women's rights, but only in Afghanistan.
 
crandc said:
Oh sure, just like 20 years ago when they suddenly cared about women's rights, but only in Afghanistan.
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We simply do not defend women and girls all around the world ..Afghanistan is no different from Nigeria, Somalia, Rwanda and many many places like Myanmar, N Korea, etc.....230 high school girls kidnapped in Nigeria last year...before that 300 captured and raped and forced to entertain guerrilla troops in the jungle....has gone on for ages...we seem to ignore African atrocities all the time...Afghanistan is just another paternal medieval society that is clinging to archaic practices....point is we've been there 20 years and invested a trillion dollars and nothing has changed in regards to all that...the Afghan govt failed to protect it's citizens..Nigerian girls have stopped going to school because that's where they get kidnapped...we need a strong United Nations peacekeeping force to address global atrocities...the US cannot continue to carry the entire load on it's on...it takes a village to protect a child
 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...Taiwan-force-Biden-abandoned-Afghanistan.html

China vows to 'crush' any US troops on Taiwan 'by force' and conducts live fire naval exercises in South China Sea after Biden abandoned Afghanistan
  • Editorial in regime-backed paper lashed out at US Senator John Cornyn who erroneously stated there were 30,000 American soldiers stationed in Taiwan
  • Global Times piece called it 'equivalent to a military invasion of Taiwan Province'
  • China conducted naval drills off Taiwan on Tuesday in latest show of strength
  • Comes as Washington is still reeling from disastrous surrender of Afghanistan

China today threatened to 'crush' any US troops stationed on Taiwan as it conducts live fire drills in the South China Sea after Joe Biden abandoned Afghanistan.

An editorial in the regime-backed Global Times lashed out at a since-deleted tweet by Senator John Cornyn which erroneously stated there were 30,000 American soldiers stationed in Taiwan.

The bombastic propaganda article said that if Sen. Cornyn's claim was true this 'is equivalent to a military invasion and occupation of the Taiwan Province of China. It is an act of declaring war on the People's Republic of China.'

It added that China would 'destroy and expel US troops in Taiwan by any means and realize reunification by force.'

Backing up this fiery rhetoric, Beijing dispatched warships and fighter jets for drills off Taiwan on Tuesday in its latest show of strength to Washington.

Although China is the dominant power in east Asia, many of its neighbours like Taiwan and Japan look to the US as their closest military partner. Beijing, therefore, revels in anything which undermines Washington's credibility.

Chinese state media pumped out the images of desperate Afghans flooding Kabul airport in an effort to flee on Monday as a sign of the chaos prompted by the US retreat.

On Tuesday, foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said Washington had left 'an awful mess of unrest, division and broken families' in Afghanistan.

'America's strength and role is destruction, not construction.'

State media has peddled the idea that America's rush from Afghanistan reflects its fair-weather attitude to all allies - including in Taiwan, which seeks strength from Washington's security guarantee as it defies Beijing.

Biden, hammered over the disorderly retreat, has defended the withdrawal saying China and Russia would 'love nothing more' than his country to have continued to sink resources into the Afghanistan quagmire.

But Beijing now perhaps senses any opportunity to seize the impetus in the region with the US licking its wounds over its calamitous foreign policy decision to quit Afghanistan.

Warships, anti-submarine aircraft and fighter jets took part in the live fire drills in an undisclosed location off Taiwan on Tuesday.

People's Liberation Army spokesman Shi Yi called it a 'necessary activity in response to the recent situation in the Taiwan Strait.'

It follows recent passages by US and European military vessels through the disputed waters in the South China Sea.

Earlier this month, the Biden administration approved a $750 million arms deal with Taiwan that included 40 M109 self-propelled howitzers and 1,700 kits to convert missiles into GPS-guided projectiles.

However, Taiwan's President Tsai Ing-wen said today that the country needed to be 'stronger and more united' in ensuring its own defence following the chaos in Kabul.

The sudden departure of US troops has sparked discussion in Taiwan as to whether the US can be relied upon to come to Taipei's defence.

Tsai addressed those concerns directly in a Facebook post on Wednesday.

'Recent changes in the situation in Afghanistan have led to much discussion in Taiwan,' she wrote.

'I want to tell everyone that Taiwan's only option is to make ourselves stronger, more united and more resolute in our determination to protect ourselves.'

Tsai stressed that Taiwan should practice self-reliance.

'It's not an option for us to do nothing on our own and just to rely on other people's protection,' she said in the post.

She also said Taipei cannot rely on 'momentary goodwill or charity of those who will not renounce the use of force against Taiwan' in a clear reference to Beijing.

China has ramped up military, diplomatic and economic pressure since Tsai's 2016 election, as she sees Taiwan as 'already independent' and not part of its 'one China'.

But analysts say that Afghanistan and Taiwan are not easy comparisons.

'(Taiwan) is a core interest for the US in that it is a well-functioning democracy, loyal ally, (with) a capable military and directly standing up to America's most important competitor,' Robert Kelly, an international relations expert at Pusan National University, wrote on Twitter.......(CONT.)
 
https://thediplomat.com/2015/05/tai...om a purely naval and,as to the United States.

From a purely naval and military perspective, control of the island of Taiwan would constitute a huge strategic asset for China and a threat to the region in both Southeast and Northeast Asia as well as to the United States. Chinese control of Taiwan, its technologically advanced economy, and control of the entrance to the South China Sea it would provide would have major economic, diplomatic, and political implications for the region. There would likely be a cascading effect as regional governments recalculate their self-interests in the face of an even more powerfully situated China. Singapore might well be intimidated into a more pro-China position, consolidating Beijing’s control of the South China Sea with Taiwan in the north and Singapore in the south. Denying China that asset and that leverage is clearly in the strategic security and economic interests of the countries of Southeast Asia, Japan, and the United States.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Taliban is government. Facebook is not.

The bar should be set higher for a country than for a company. Obviously.
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What if the country believes in Sharia law?

Not all countries provide the outlet for free speech, and we should respect that.
 
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