Politics The Joe Biden Thread (2 Viewers)

[beast blazer]

so the clips that said it protects you from getting seriously ill, is the same as " you won't get covid".

The only one that said you won't get it is Biden, and that's not the same, because if you want to pull that shit out, there are plenty of wrong and much stupider things that Trump said about Covid than that.

But go on.

LOL! Now you want me to transcribe the video, which you obviously didn't watch, and point out the exact phrases.

Whatever clownboy. Live in your own reality.

 

[Chris Craig]

LOL! Now you want me to transcribe the video, which you obviously didn't watch, and point out the exact phrases.

Whatever clownboy. Live in your own reality.

You are grasping at straws. So what that Biden misspoke. So what that he's old. We have already been through this. These are nothing burgers now, and Schumer doesn't know how to cook them, haha. Making fun of COVID masks, haha. Whatever. You think these are gotchas. You think you are burning us or owning us. You're not.

 

[riverman]

Biden is toast....as far as I'm concerned, the dems have no shot with him at this point. If Pelosi, Schiff and Schumer all ask him to step down, it's pretty much assured he's lost his base. They should go find the biggest movie star they can get to knock Trump off the podium for good....ladies and gentlemen...president Tom Hanks! (Fill in the celebrity, it won't matter if they have any experience, they just need to be a better actor than the orange asshole. Apparently qualifications are no longer important anyway

 

[julius]

LOL! Now you want me to transcribe the video, which you obviously didn't watch, and point out the exact phrases.

Whatever clownboy. Live in your own reality.

No I did watch the video. They all were saying it'll stop you from getting it really bad and spreading it. The only one who said you wouldn't get it was Biden.

But go on, die on that hill.

 

[julius]

Biden is toast....as far as I'm concerned, the dems have no shot with him at this point. If Pelosi, Schiff and Schumer all ask him to step down, it's pretty much assured he's lost his base.

Pelosi, Schiff and Schumer are not his base.

 

[riverman]

Pelosi, Schiff and Schumer are not his base.

They are the power brokers of the Democratic party for the most part...and it's not only them. I've conceeded that Joe's campaign is a dead horse at this point but not necessarily the dems campaign...they need a charmer, and a stronger voice that can suck the momentum out of Trump's campaign and Joe is sliding off the charts right now. Joee is becoming unlikeable along the lines of Hillary in 2016....I don't want to see that happen again. False confidence in the electoral vote will lose the election

 

[julius]

They are the power brokers of the Democratic party for the most part...and it's not only them. I've conceeded that Joe's campaign is a dead horse at this point but not necessarily the dems campaign...they need a charmer, and a stronger voice that can suck the momentum out of Trump's campaign and Joe is sliding off the charts right now. Joee is becoming unlikeable along the lines of Hillary in 2016....I don't want to see that happen again. False confidence in the electoral vote will lose the election

They're rich old white people, they are not nor do they, represent or even model the democratic base.

 

[riverman]

They're rich old white people, they are not nor do they, represent or even model the democratic base.

I think that's wishful thinking on your part...sure they're rich old white people...like them or not..Pelosi has been the face of the party as speaker for a long time....it's not Bernie or AOC....that's for sure and I'm not saying it's a good thing but I am saying Biden is the kiss of deathto this election and 2/3rds of the Dems think so too...led by the 3 I mentioned

 

[crandc]

Self fulfilling. Keep saying someone can't win and undecided/ swing voters less likely to vote for them. I mean, do these people want to lose? Had they immediately united around Biden as Republicans did convicted felon he would have emerged stronger.

Actual polls haven't changed, still toss up.

Still galling no one tells man with 34 felony convictions, legally liable for rape, hundreds of millions in civil and criminal penalties assessed, charity legally ruled a scam, university legally ruled a scam to quit the race. No, that is reserved for one who did nothing wrong, just got older.

According to Joy Reid, who talks to members of Congressional Black Caucus daily, there is concern some forces want not only to push out Biden but also push aside Harris. Which would be suicide.

 

[julius]

I think that's wishful thinking on your part...sure they're rich old white people...like them or not..Pelosi has been the face of the party as speaker for a long time....it's not Bernie or AOC....that's for sure and I'm not saying it's a good thing but I am saying Biden is the kiss of deathto this election and 2/3rds of the Dems think so too...led by the 3 I mentioned

and they are not the base.

 

[riverman]

Self fulfilling. Keep saying someone can't win and undecided/ swing voters less likely to vote for them. I mean, do these people want to lose? Had they immediately united around Biden as Republicans did convicted felon he would have emerged stronger.

Actual polls haven't changed, still toss up.

Still galling no one tells man with 34 felony convictions, legally liable for rape, hundreds of millions in civil and criminal penalties assessed, charity legally ruled a scam, university legally ruled a scam to quit the race. No, that is reserved for one who did nothing wrong, just got older.

According to Joy Reid, who talks to members of Congressional Black Caucus daily, there is concern some forces want not only to push out Biden but also push aside Harris. Which would be suicide.

Jo has lost way too many states to the electoral vote...compare the map to 2020 and it's glaringly apparent.....I would vote for Joe to neutralize Trump but I have a strong feeling more than half the country won't...and none of this gives me any joy at all. Joe has shot himself in the foot repeatedly

 

[riverman]

and they are not the base.

you're welcome to see it as you wish but they are the face of the party as it stands. I'd add Raskin to the list...Fact is Joe's base is shrinking by the minute.

 

[Hoopguru]

They are the power brokers of the Democratic party for the most part...and it's not only them. I've conceeded that Joe's campaign is a dead horse at this point but not necessarily the dems campaign...they need a charmer, and a stronger voice that can suck the momentum out of Trump's campaign and Joe is sliding off the charts right now. Joee is becoming unlikeable along the lines of Hillary in 2016....I don't want to see that happen again. False confidence in the electoral vote will lose the election

Kamala beat him?

 

[julius]

you're welcome to see it as you wish but they are the face of the party as it stands. I'd add Raskin to the list...Fact is Joe's base is shrinking by the minute.

The party is not the same as the base. The party didn't like Bernie, but the base did. The "face" of the Party speaks for themselves and their own wallets. Why do you think *NOTHING* gets done that the majority of the base wants?

Because the party doesn't give two shits about the base. Never has, never will.

 

[crandc]

Bridge repairs in 18 states, including two over Columbia River, are scheduled to begin under Biden infrastructure plan.

 

[Hoopguru]

Trump will lose a whole bunch of voters in the next 3 1/2 months. He will turn moderates and bluedogs off.

 

[riverman]

Kamala beat him?

I'd have more faith in Kamala finishing the race than Joe but she's not as charismatic or popular as I think a candidate will need to be to draw swing voters and swing states. Still a better option than Joe to me at this point. I just don't want a repeat of 2016

 

[Hoopguru]

Biden is toast....as far as I'm concerned, the dems have no shot with him at this point. If Pelosi, Schiff and Schumer all ask him to step down, it's pretty much assured he's lost his base. They should go find the biggest movie star they can get to knock Trump off the podium for good....ladies and gentlemen...president Tom Hanks! (Fill in the celebrity, it won't matter if they have any experience, they just need to be a better actor than the orange asshole. Apparently qualifications are no longer important anyway

Alright, alright, alright....

 

[julius]

Jo has lost way too many states to the electoral vote...compare the map to 2020 and it's glaringly apparent.....I would vote for Joe to neutralize Trump but I have a strong feeling more than half the country won't...and none of this gives me any joy at all. Joe has shot himself in the foot repeatedly

The vote already has taken place?

you do realize that a lot of the "polls" are those of older people who tend to vote more conservatively, right?

As I'm sure many people have said before, I don't know a single person who has been called, or polled (or to appease barfo, I don't know any married people who have been called/polled either).

If they're afraid that Joe will lose the election, removing him will guarantee the democrats lose.

Almost as if that's what the right wants to happen, and the left, being the idiots they are, are falling for it hook line and sinker.

But go on, tell us how an 84 year old Pelosi, 73 year old Chuck Shumer and 64 year old Adam Schiff are in tune with the people who vote for democrats.

 

[twobullz]

so the clips that said it protects you from getting seriously ill, is the same as " you won't get covid".

The only one that said you won't get it is Biden, and that's not the same, because if you want to pull that shit out, there are plenty of wrong and much stupider things that Trump said about Covid than that.

But go on.

Yeah but with the stupid stuff Trump said, there was always a release the next day with, that started with "What he really meant".

 

[riverman]

The vote already has taken place?

you do realize that a lot of the "polls" are those of older people who tend to vote more conservatively, right?

As I'm sure many people have said before, I don't know a single person who has been called, or polled (or to appease barfo, I don't know any married people who have been called/polled either).

If they're afraid that Joe will lose the election, removing him will guarantee the democrats lose.

Almost as if that's what the right wants to happen, and the left, being the idiots they are, are falling for it hook line and sinker.

But go on, tell us how an 84 year old Pelosi, 73 year old Chuck Shumer and 64 year old Adam Schiff are in tune with the people who vote for democrats.

I sincerely hope you are right but over the last couple of weeks my news algorithm has shown some glaring trends in Biden's status that I fear are going to get arrogantly glossed over like polls that said Hillary can't lose....the electoral states are showing the entire middle of the country bright red and several coastal states red or pink...in 2020 it was much more even across the nation....no presiden't has won with a popularity in the 30 percent bracket...Joe's numbers have dropped drastically and that's what Pelosi, Schuer and Schiff brought an expert in to show Joe at a private meeting urging him to pass the torch. We can cheer away but in my view it's not worth a risk given the stakes.

 

[julius]

I sincerely hope you are right but over the last couple of weeks my news algorithm has shown some glaring trends in Biden's status that I fear are going to get arrogantly glossed over like polls that said Hillary can't lose....the electoral states are showing the entire middle of the country bright red and several coastal states red or pink...in 2020 it was much more even across the nation....no presiden't has won with a popularity in the 30 percent bracket...Joe's numbers have dropped drastically and that's what Pelosi, Schuer and Schiff brought an expert in to show Joe at a private meeting urging him to pass the torch. We can cheer away but in my view it's not worth a risk given the stakes.

your algorithm is not the base. my algorithm is showing a bunch of homesteading videos, does that mean we're headed towards a homesteading boom where everyone builds their own log cabins and grows their own food?

Who exactly is going to replace him that will excite the base?

 

[Hoopguru]

I sincerely hope you are right but over the last couple of weeks my news algorithm has shown some glaring trends in Biden's status that I fear are going to get arrogantly glossed over like polls that said Hillary can't lose....the electoral states are showing the entire middle of the country bright red and several coastal states red or pink...in 2020 it was much more even across the nation....no presiden't has won with a popularity in the 30 percent bracket...Joe's numbers have dropped drastically and that's what Pelosi, Schuer and Schiff brought an expert in to show Joe at a private meeting urging him to pass the torch. We can cheer away but in my view it's not worth a risk given the stakes.

Those mid west states I wonder if they would vote Harris? Having worked back there for hears I know how they feel about California Politicians. Amy would be more appealing to mid westerners than Harris?

 

[riverman]

your algorithm is not the base. my algorithm is showing a bunch of homesteading videos, does that mean we're headed towards a homesteading boom where everyone builds their own log cabins and grows their own food?

Who exactly is going to replace him that will excite the base?

An orator on the level of Obama or Bill Clinton...someone who will dominate Trump in a debate to start with. I like Klobuchar from Minnesota but she's not that......Raskin is an orator and he'd mop the floor with Trump in a debate...he's not popular though

 

[riverman]

your algorithm is not the base. my algorithm is showing a bunch of homesteading videos, does that mean we're headed towards a homesteading boom where everyone builds their own log cabins and grows their own food?

Who exactly is going to replace him that will excite the base?

Good luck with the cabin and garden....fortunately that part of my life is complete

 

[beast blazer]

Why no mask? I thought "masks work". He forced us to wear them even when weren't sick, now he's not wearing one even though he knows he IS sick.

 

[MickZagger]

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/07/obama-says-biden-needs-to-reconsider-election-bid/amp/

OBummer thinks he should drop out

 

[HailBlazers]

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/07/obama-says-biden-needs-to-reconsider-election-bid/amp/

OBummer thinks he should drop out

Yet ya'll don't.

 

[crandc]

Harris, if she ends up as nominee, would most likely pick a white male Midwestern running mate. Maybe Michigan senator Gary Peters. I'm sure there are others I can't think of off top of my head.

In 2020 Biden was about my 6th choice in primary but he was right candidate at right time. Not only had Trump botched COVID, and it was new so even most competent person would have made mistakes, he was totally without compassion. Since pandemic hit high population states first he was inclined to do nothing, they hadn't voted for him. His concern was how pandemic affected his re-election. Talked of inhaling bleach, said don't socially distance, pack churches Easter. Never visited people, never expressed compassion because he has none. After drama and chaos, Biden was steady, a bit dull, empathetic, competent. It was his moment.
He has done a good job with some exceptions, slow response to Gaza. He is a good person who doesn't deserve dissing. But looks like it's no longer his moment.
And reiterate, to dump Biden and bypass VP for someone white would be political suicide.

 

[MickZagger]

Yet ya'll don't.

Reading comprehension isn’t really the right wingers in this forum’s cup of tea.

I’ve stated multiple times I think he should. But if he chooses not too then I’d still take him over that fool Trump