Trade Deadline: February 6, 2025

[blazerkor]

No. Always ask high. This is negotiations.

It just depends on what the negotiation is and how much higher than what's reasonable you make your ask.

Miami supposedly low balled us and tried to strong arm us into giving them Dame, following your logic that was a good way to instigate negotiations. Joe wouldn't answer their calls after the initial offer is what has been reported. So yeah you need to leave room for negotiation if you are the one who is making the initial offer but if it's too outlandish, the other party may choose to not engage in further negotiations.

I don't think a FRP for Rob is too much... where the Lakers are considered the only FRP they can offer can't have protections and a contingency, so for them if the pick is protected and lands in the area of protection we will have traded Rob for nothing and they may have won another championship having gained the player who put them over the top for nothing.

It's complicated stuff. I hope Joe gets us the best deals and I hope he gets some deals done.

 

[wizenheimer]

No. Always ask high. This is negotiations.

don't know what it is. You're assuming that's the first ask. Maybe it's the last of several

 

[B-Roy]

don't know what it is. You're assuming that's the first ask. Maybe it's the last of several

I mean you're the one saying he was insane for asking it without knowing the context.

 

[wizenheimer]

I mean you're the one saying he was insane for asking it without knowing the context.

as I said, if it's true, an unprotected 1st for a player who has played 23 games over the last 132. That's plenty of context

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I wonder if Philly is just going to mail in the Embiid era and try to get out from George contract. I could see George going to the Warriors.

I guess Beal would go to Philly or Miami along with draft capital. Then Golden States parts to the other franchise.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Oh God.

Who do they think we would replace in the top 10? We are also currently 5 games behind the 10th seed and would have to leap over SA and GS to just make a play in. This mindset is not one I support if our leadership is thinking this.

Dallas just lost by 40 points, I could easily see them struggling. Its very hard to effectively integrate multiple starters in the middle of the season.

Sacramento I expect to get worse, LaVine is fools gold. Warriors have been really bad all year since that red hot 12 game start.

Of course there's always injuries too - which would open up potentially more spots.

Not saying the Blazers are for sure passing these teams - but very possible a couple of them finish poorly this season.

 

[Hoopguru]

Grimes the guy I wanted in a trade with Dallas is now a 76er.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Wouldn't we end up completely out of the draft if we somehow made the playoffs? Our pick owed to Chicago is only lottery protected.

We'd gain it in future seasons as well as we'd fully unlock and guarantee the 2028 swap with Milwaukee.

I'd much rather have a top lottery pick in this year draft. But if were only getting a pick at the very end of the lottery I'm fine just making the playoffs and getting the above instead.

 

[THE HCP]

I feel like I joined a board of hypochondriacs.

Are those people that are scared of spiders or people that can use BOTH hands?

 

[Cugel]

I dont understand these GMs still trying to build superteams with guys that are WAY over the hill. WTF you want Beal, Butler etc? Havent they learned anything from the best teams?

 

[Everything Beagle]

Are those people that are scared of spiders or people that can use BOTH hands?

People who are scared of people who are scared of them

 

[Chris Craig]

Are those people that are scared of spiders or people that can use BOTH hands?

Ambidextrous people...eww

 

[KingSpeed]

Butler back to Philly? KD back to GS?

 

[RR7]

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Phatguysrule]

people that can use BOTH hands?

But they have to be able to switch without missing a stroke, right?

 

[illmatic99]

Dallas just lost by 40 points, I could easily see them struggling. Its very hard to effectively integrate multiple starters in the middle of the season.

Sacramento I expect to get worse, LaVine is fools gold. Warriors have been really bad all year since that red hot 12 game start.

Of course there's always injuries too - which would open up potentially more spots.

Not saying the Blazers are for sure passing these teams - but very possible a couple of them finish poorly this season.

They lost by 40 to the team with the best record after getting railroad by their GM and missing Kyrie/AD and Klay.

These are delusions of grandeur if people think we can overcome a 5 game deficit in the standings against Dallas.

 

[KingSpeed]

Dalton Knecht and the other pick?

 

[KingSpeed]

Jerami Grant and Ant Simons for KD?

 

[KingSpeed]

Let’s get involved and win it all this year.

 

[KingSpeed]

Ok. We send JG and Simons and picks to Suns for KD. Then we flip KD and Scoot and RW3 for Luka. Both teams become contenders:

Luka/Sharpe/Camara/Deni/Ayton
Scoot/Reaves/KD/LeBron/RW3

 

[ant]

Dalton Knecht and the other pick?

That’s pretty funny. Fucking Lakers.

 

[Strenuus]

Let’s get involved and win it all this year.

There is 0% chance we win it all this year and you know it.

 

[GrandpaBlaze]

Jerami Grant and Ant Simons for KD?

When has KD led anyone anywhere? He is a very good supporting player but not a leader.

Pass.

 

[blazerkor]

There is 0% chance we win it all this year and you know it.

I agree and I don't think there is quite a 0% chance that we never win it all with this group of players and just some Olsheyish tinkering around the margins but I think it's pretty damn close to 0%. We need an absolute superstar. There are a few guys in this draft that could very well fit that bill but we're going to have to get extremely lucky if we want one of them.

 

[blazerkor]

I don't know if the Suns can trade KD when they gave so much up for him but maybe they're willing to take a big L on this one. Two years, not much to show for it. Made some terrible decisions building around KD and Booker. As much as I complain about Joe... I would much rather be us than the Suns fans right now.

 

[RR7]

Still think the Suns should move Booker. Your team is shit. It's not going anywhere. He has the most value by far on the team(though I still think he's overrated). Get a shit load of assets, turn a tiny bit of them in to Butler, and try a two year run with Beal Butler and Durant. And then let them all fuck off when you inevitably don't win anything. Move Booker to Houston and get your picks back. And then go hard reset after the old guys leave.

 

[blazerkor]

Still think the Suns should move Booker. Your team is shit. It's not going anywhere. He has the most value by far on the team(though I still think he's overrated). Get a shit load of assets, turn a tiny bit of them in to Butler, and try a two year run with Beal Butler and Durant. And then let them all fuck off when you inevitably don't win anything. Move Booker to Houston and get your picks back. And then go hard reset after the old guys leave.

I don't think that's a bad idea.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Strenuus]

I agree and I don't think there is quite a 0% chance that we never win it all with this group of players and just some Olsheyish tinkering around the margins but I think it's pretty damn close to 0%. We need an absolute superstar. There are a few guys in this draft that could very well fit that bill but we're going to have to get extremely lucky if we want one of them.

Agreed on all fronts.