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I really wonder how many of these playoff games have been won by the teams who have done better shooting the three. Seems like most of them
 
Shoutouts to Torey for his video earlier. The tradedown I like most:

#6, #11, WCJ, and Bol for #3, Nas, and Keon.

Nurk/WCJ/Bol locks up your C position. I’d be at a point where I’d say it’s no longer a concern. At #6, Ausar has a solid chance of being available. #11, draft BPA. Trade #23 to get our 1st back.

Dame/Ant/Mays
Ant/Sharpe/Thybulle
____/Ausar/Thybulle
Grant/Watford/Bol/Walker
Nurk/WCJ/Bol

With a decent MLE at SF, I think the starting lineup can get us into the playoffs. WCJ just turned 24 and is already a productive C, 15.2/8.7/2.3 and on a bargain of a contract for the next 3 seasons if he keeps getting better. If WCJ, Sharpe, or Ausar play well enough consistently, Ant + Nurk for multiple future 1sts should be able to being someone good in return.
 
Predator said:
Why would Orlando do that?
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If they are in on Scoot and he's there at #3 would be the rationale imo

Personally, that deal doesn't do much for me, especially if Ausar is gone.
 
andalusian said:
Disagree, multiply the drpg pct by the percent of games played for a real impact...

Ayton grabbed about 300 more rebounds than nurkic last year.

Per game stats are useless when the player doesn't play that much
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As long as he shows up in the playoffs I'm good with it.

I wouldn't trade Nurk unless we're getting a better center to replace him.
 
Brown is basically the same size as Sharpe (about an inch taller, but an inch shorter reach). He's definitely more accomplished than Sharpe is, but as he's become more of a volume shooter, his three point percentage has gone down each of the last two years.

Dame-Sharpe-Brown is a nice 1-3 combination, but I don't think he's a big enough step up in the long run over Simons to be worth adding the #3 pick, too, and I can't imagine the Celtics not wanting both of those assets as a starting point.
 
Ed O said:
Brown is basically the same size as Sharpe (about an inch taller, but an inch shorter reach). He's definitely more accomplished than Sharpe is, but as he's become more of a volume shooter, his three point percentage has gone down each of the last two years.

Dame-Sharpe-Brown is a nice 1-3 combination, but I don't think he's a big enough step up in the long run over Simons to be worth adding the #3 pick, too, and I can't imagine the Celtics not wanting both of those assets as a starting point.
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Another question to ask is: What other offers will Boston receive that is better than #3?

Teams don't always get what they want in trades. If Boston knows they're not going to resign Brown next summer, it's about being the best option they have, not the option they want.
 
New Big Board by “The Box and One.” There were some changes from the last one. Anthony Black and Brandon Miller moved up.

Move ahead to 20:50 for the top 10.

10. Ausar Thompson
9. Jarace Walker
8. Taylor Hendricks
7. Cason Wallace
6. Cam Whitmore
5. Anthony Black
4. Amen Thompson
3. Brandon Miller
2. Scoot Henderson
1. Victor Wembanyama

 
I'm glad there is dissension about whether or not Jaylen Brown is worth Ant and pick 3. I definitely think that he is and would do the move in a heartbeat but I can see why some on here think he's not good enough to command that price. This probably means if he demands a trade that Ant and pick 3 will be enough. I do like the idea that it's Ant, Nurk and pick 3 for Brown and Robert Williams... that would give us a very switchable team on offense and a lot off moving parts on D.
 
blazerkor said:
I'm glad there is dissension about whether or not Jaylen Brown is worth Ant and pick 3. I definitely think that he is and would do the move in a heartbeat but I can see why some on here think he's not good enough to command that price. This probably means if he demands a trade that Ant and pick 3 will be enough. I do like the idea that it's Ant, Nurk and pick 3 for Brown and Robert Williams... that would give us a very switchable team on offense and a lot off moving parts on D.
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Is there a way to get Brown using the pick and filler? I want to use Ant/Nurk to go get something else. Frankly I don’t think Brown is worth the third AND Simons.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Is there a way to get Brown using the pick and filler? I want to use Ant/Nurk to go get something else. Frankly I don’t think Brown is worth the third AND Simons.
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At bare minimum, I'd love to get Payton Pritchard out of the deal as a hard-nosed backup for Dame.
 
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Natebishop3 said:
Is there a way to get Brown using the pick and filler? I want to use Ant/Nurk to go get something else. Frankly I don’t think Brown is worth the third AND Simons.
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Blazers don't have enough salary outside of Ant/Nurk to make that trade. Brown's salary is 28.74M. so 28.74/1.25 = a shade under 23M. Assuming Sharpe is off the table, that only leaves about 15M in Little, Knox, Keon, Watford, & Walker (I haven't heard if the new CBA has adjusted those trade differential percentages from the current 175% (<6.533M)--->5M (6.533m-19.6M)--->125% (>19.6M))

that answer might be here but I haven't read it all yet:

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/...nt-from-salary-cap-to-free-agency-and-beyond/

at minimum, one of Ant/Nurk would be integral to any major trade.

is Brown worth the 3rd pick? I don't know, maybe? He was a 3rd pick himself and it's pretty accepted the Celtics did well taking Brown at 3. But then, they got 4 years of Brown on a rookie scale deal, and that's significant value. Portland wouldn't be getting that if they traded 3 for Brown. On the other hand, the Celtics essentially paid to develop Brown into the player he is

as far as 3+Ant...I don't believe adding Ant escalates the value of that trade much over that of the 3. Especially for Boston as Ant is kind of an anti-Celtic in that he's a defensive sieve

personally, I'd say Siakam is not worth the 3+Ant (+ more salary); Brown may be worth the 3 + Ant; Bridges is worth the 3+Ant (barely)

I certainly don't think any of those players is worth 3 + any future 1st's. Bridges may be the closest, but here's the thing about Bridges: we have nearly 400 games of him being a high-level role player and only about 30 of him being a star. What Bridges is the real Bridges? Is he actually somewhere between? Whatever the case, there is also the factor of Bridges/Grant as the forwards. They are a really poor rebounding pair
 
AmirIcon said:
At bare minimum, I'd love to get Payton Pritchard out of the deal as a hard-nosed backup for Dame.
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Not just for you, but for everyone else who mentions Pritchard, and I've seen it a lot on here, would you have any interest at all in him or even know who he is if he wasn't from here and go to the UofO? I keep seeing him listed as a great option for backup PG for us, but he really seems like much more of a spot up shooter bench player than an actual pass first PG that people clamor for. His career AST% is lower than what Simons gives us at SG, and everyone says Simons is a ballhog who doesn't pass.
 
wizenheimer said:
Blazers don't have enough salary outside of Ant/Nurk to make that trade. Brown's salary is 28.74M. so 28.74/1.25 = a shade under 23M. Assuming Sharpe is off the table, that only leaves about 15M in Little, Knox, Keon, Watford, & Walker (I haven't heard if the new CBA has adjusted those trade differential percentages from the current 175% (<6.533M)--->5M (6.533m-19.6M)--->125% (>19.6M))

that answer might be here but I haven't read it all yet:

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/...nt-from-salary-cap-to-free-agency-and-beyond/

at minimum, one of Ant/Nurk would be integral to any major trade.

is Brown worth the 3rd pick? I don't know, maybe? He was a 3rd pick himself and it's pretty accepted the Celtics did well taking Brown at 3. But then, they got 4 years of Brown on a rookie scale deal, and that's significant value. Portland wouldn't be getting that if they traded 3 for Brown. On the other hand, the Celtics essentially paid to develop Brown into the player he is

as far as 3+Ant...I don't believe adding Ant escalates the value of that trade much over that of the 3. Especially for Boston as Ant is kind of an anti-Celtic in that he's a defensive sieve

personally, I'd say Siakam is not worth the 3+Ant (+ more salary); Brown may be worth the 3 + Ant; Bridges is worth the 3+Ant (barely)

I certainly don't think any of those players is worth 3 + any future 1st's. Bridges may be the closest, but here's the thing about Bridges: we have nearly 400 games of him being a high-level role player and only about 30 of him being a star. What Bridges is the real Bridges? Is he actually somewhere between?
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Can we not use the TPE for Brown?
 
RR7 said:
Not just for you, but for everyone else who mentions Pritchard, and I've seen it a lot on here, would you have any interest at all in him or even know who he is if he wasn't from here and go to the UofO? I keep seeing him listed as a great option for backup PG for us, but he really seems like much more of a spot up shooter bench player than an actual pass first PG that people clamor for. His career AST% is lower than what Simons gives us at SG, and everyone says Simons is a ballhog who doesn't pass.
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Been saying this for years. If the kid wasn't from the state and a Duck, he'd be just another guy. All credit to him making it this far, once a duck/always a duck (and his time there was awesome), but he shouldn't be looked at as more than an end-of-bench/occasional scorer/emergency situation role-player in the NBA...
 
Mediocre Man said:
He also plays substandard defense.
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Man! There are many in here that raved about his defense . To be honest, there really aren't very many good , consistent, defenders in the League. Jrue Holiday, Mikal Bridges, Pascal Siakam, and Giannis are the only ones that stand out. There are good defense only guys like Matisse Thybulle. But few both way quality players.
 
RR7 said:
Not just for you, but for everyone else who mentions Pritchard, and I've seen it a lot on here, would you have any interest at all in him or even know who he is if he wasn't from here and go to the UofO? I keep seeing him listed as a great option for backup PG for us, but he really seems like much more of a spot up shooter bench player than an actual pass first PG that people clamor for. His career AST% is lower than what Simons gives us at SG, and everyone says Simons is a ballhog who doesn't pass.
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The answer to that question is that no they wouldn't want him if not for those reasons. Boston didn't even consider him playable in the playoffs, he can't be a rotation player on a good team.
 
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RR7 said:
Not just for you, but for everyone else who mentions Pritchard, and I've seen it a lot on here, would you have any interest at all in him or even know who he is if he wasn't from here and go to the UofO? I keep seeing him listed as a great option for backup PG for us, but he really seems like much more of a spot up shooter bench player than an actual pass first PG that people clamor for. His career AST% is lower than what Simons gives us at SG, and everyone says Simons is a ballhog who doesn't pass.
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I liked what i saw in Skylar Mays against good competition last year. He's young as well. And i like his ability to facilitate way more than Ant's.
 
RR7 said:
Not just for you, but for everyone else who mentions Pritchard, and I've seen it a lot on here, would you have any interest at all in him or even know who he is if he wasn't from here and go to the UofO? I keep seeing him listed as a great option for backup PG for us, but he really seems like much more of a spot up shooter bench player than an actual pass first PG that people clamor for. His career AST% is lower than what Simons gives us at SG, and everyone says Simons is a ballhog who doesn't pass.
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I never watched him at UofO and don't care about his Portland history. I think he's going to be a good player in this league and would be a good get. We need players like him, Caruso, Bruce Brown.
 
Another comp I just heard from Utility Sports for Brandon Miller is Brandon Ingraham.

I'd take that. Then trade Ant/Nurk for a two-way player with a bigger salary. Or just Nurk and change for Ayton.
 
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