Event With the 16th pick, Blazers have selected Hansen Yang

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wizenheimer said:
I mentioned the 14th pick. Of course, that was the primary leverage used on Avdija. But we also heard plenty of rumors that the Blazers were considering trading up to make sure they got Clingan. But would the Blazers have used two lottery picks last season on two, slow-footed drop-coverage C's 8 months after adding Ayton and Timelord? I guess that's basically where the Blazers are

or would they have traded the 7th pick for Avdija hoping it had enough value that Washington would not demand that 2029 1st? Then use the 14th on Yang?

obviously, the F.O.'s consideration of Yang was before the draft order was sorted and before it became clear Yang wasn't entering the draft last season



I'd say it's 11-30
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I think they would have hoped that he'd have made it to their early second round pick. I think he took another step forward this year and in conjunction with his reshaped body and combine performance that just wasn't as likely this year.
 
Cugel said:
and Ayton, and RW, and Reath...5 guys at an outdated position
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Yeah, but do you think we will have 5 to start the season? History shows that we usually need 3 because one will get injured.
 
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This is definitely copium, but it definitely seems like Yang knew he would be picked in the first round. Both the reaction and him actually coming to the draft seem to indicate he had enough intel on that. Still not a fan of the pick, but it is what it is. I will say though, as an Asian American, I am a bit excited about the extra coverage the Blazers are gonna get over the next few years.
 
wizenheimer said:
I mentioned the 14th pick. Of course, that was the primary leverage used on Avdija. But we also heard plenty of rumors that the Blazers were considering trading up to make sure they got Clingan. But would the Blazers have used two lottery picks last season on two, slow-footed drop-coverage C's 8 months after adding Ayton and Timelord? I guess that's basically where the Blazers are

or would they have traded the 7th pick for Avdija hoping it had enough value that Washington would not demand that 2029 1st? Then use the 14th on Yang?

obviously, the F.O.'s consideration of Yang was before the draft order was sorted and before it became clear Yang wasn't entering the draft last season



I'd say it's 11-30
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I keep seeing people calling him a slow footed drop big. Based on what? His player type? There’s hardly any scouting on him and in the limited vids of him he actually doesn’t look that slow. Certainly faster than Clingan, and probably compares well to Edey. Not saying you want him out on the perimeter full time, but let’s not judge him when no one on here has ever seen him play an actual game.

Edey is actually a good comparison, because before the draft lottery last year he was a projected late first/early second. He just got so much buzz and hype during the draft process that at the end of it, him going 9th was normalized among draft folks.
 
I guess the Lakers hosted Klutch clients and Yangs workout was HORRIBLE

I root for the player but I am done with Cronin -- fuck him there is nothing short of trading for Giannis that MIGHT change my mind on him. Now I am praying that Cronin does not trade someone who is a legit part of the future and that the new owner comes in ASAP and fires the clown brigade in the front office cause this is just a joke kind of how the Blazers are around the league right now.
 
The Blazers are in love with “projects.” Have you noticed this? While other teams draft players with solid credentials from strong college programs who are universally regarded as top prospects, we go after the guys on the fringe who “might” turn into great players someday if everything works out and we keep our fingers crossed: Qyntel Woods, Darius Miles, Martell Webster, Travis Outlaw, Sebastian Telfair, Anfernee Simons, Shaedon Sharpe, and Hansen Yang.

What explains the Blazer’s fascination with high-risk players? Is it the conviction that they have to look harder for future stars because they know proven NBA stars never choose Portland as a destination?
 
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Ripcity4life77 said:
I guess the Lakers hosted Klutch clients and Yangs workout was HORRIBLE

I root for the player but I am done with Cronin -- fuck him there is nothing short of trading for Giannis that MIGHT change my mind on him. Now I am praying that Cronin does not trade someone who is a legit part of the future and that the new owner comes in ASAP and fires the clown brigade in the front office cause this is just a joke kind of how the Blazers are around the league right now.
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Lakers didn’t even have a pick.
 
e_blazer said:
OTOH, are you of the opinion that a guy at 11 like Coward is certain to be more than a mid-level player, or that the Blazers can’t find similar talent in the FA market?
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no certainty in any of this...except that after watching the playoffs the last 5-6 years, that old saying "you can't have too many bigs" is dead, burned, and buried; and has been replaced by "you can't have too many wings". That's where the power is in the NBA and, IMO, if a team swings for the fences they need to swing at wings

obviously, there still needs to be a little balance, but Portland's 5 C's represent imbalance gone amuck. Indiana had 2 C's in their rotation: Myles Turner and Thomas Bryant: and both of those guys are mobile enough to defend the perimeter. OKC was similar with Holmgren and Hartenstein. Now, Hartenstein was the least mobile C in the finals but he is still more mobile than Ayton/Clingan/Yang

now, maybe drafting Yang is striking gold. He could be the best C on the Portland roster next season. Apparently, Blazer scouting was all-in on him so they might have hit a homer. And, since a roster is always a work in progress, having 5 C's in the off-season probably doesn't mean much. Reath is likely gone anyway so it's probably 4
 
This kid's footwork is elite. High BBIQ.
Court mapping is a skill that does not get measured at combine, and I believe he has it.
Willing passer. Everything I love about centers.
Can't wait for summer league.
I also believe Jrue and RW3 are heading to Denver for MPJ and 2031 pick.
That still leaves Grant and Ayton. I believe Grant is heading to Bulls for Ball and Ayton to GSW in S&T for Kuminga.
We get bench of Ball, Thybule, Kuminga, MPJ and Yang.
Deep as hell. Do it Joe!!!
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Adding plausibility to this: the Nets used all their picks (perhaps it was too late to trade one when Yang went) and took "The Jewish Hansen Yang" in a surprise pick with Danny Wolf

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For a second I thought you were saying Yang is Jewish. Oi vey! He and Deni chatting in Hebrew!
 
LayneStaley said:
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Zilla and Kong baby.
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Godzilla is Japanese.

You should go with a dragon or the pixiu, the winged lion.

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Phatguysrule said:
Maybe. But I don't think anybody thought Myers Leonard had a high IQ at anything...
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I was just being a smart-ass because I remember that what Olshey said after drafting Meyers was remarkably similar to what Cronin said yesterday

I've always thought the BPA argument was hollow boiler-plate bullshit. No team intentionally drafts the 4th best player available. BPA is so subjective it's devolved to meaningless deflection. Every draft bust was drafted as BPA. The judgement was just bad

and yes, I know that every once in a while a team might draft for need, but I'd estimate that most of those times they still think their choice is BPA
 
B-Roy -- Does that even matter that is the thing you want to call out -- plus if you can read I said "guess" meaning it was hearsay so just going off something i heard meaning might have been true might have been BS.

BTW -- Lakers have a 2nd round pick so it is possible they were inviting 2nd round type talent plus it is the Lakers and we all know other teams like to help them out.
 
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wizenheimer said:
I was just being a smart-ass because I remember that what Olshey said after drafting Meyers was remarkably similar to what Cronin said yesterday

I've always thought the BPA argument was hollow boiler-plate bullshit. No team intentionally drafts the 4th best player available. BPA is so subjective it's devolved to meaningless deflection. Every draft bust was drafted as BPA. The judgement was just bad

and yes, I know that every once in a while a team might draft for need, but I'd estimate that most of those times they still think their choice is BPA
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That's all "best player available" means for me. Completely ignore the team that you have or its needs.

Just look at the draft and take the guy you feel best about. If you can trade away the pick that you have and get a future pick as well that's awesome.

To me it's just a crap shoot this late that it doesn't really matter who you pick. If you get lucky you get lucky. You're probably not going to get lucky.

Honestly, it's a crap shoot when you pick higher too. It's just a crap shoot that is more in your favor.
 
B-Roy said:
I keep seeing people calling him a slow footed drop big. Based on what? His player type? There’s hardly any scouting on him and in the limited vids of him he actually doesn’t look that slow. Certainly faster than Clingan, and probably compares well to Edey.
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slow-footed in the Clingan/Edey/Nurkic/Lopez/Zubac mold. He sure doesn't look like he's mobile like the Wemby/Holmgren/Adebayo/Turner/Gafford crowd. That doesn't mean he can't be effective, in his role. Zubac is practically an all-star now

B-Roy said:
but let’s not judge him when no one on here has ever seen him play an actual game.
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why do you want to take all the fun out of over-reaction?
 
JFizzleRaider said:
If there were members open about their struggles with depression, i'd try to choose different explanations for a fanbase.
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Im sure whatever phrase I'd use you'd find a reason to complain. So I'll just stick to what I said.
 
wizenheimer said:
slow-footed in the Clingan/Edey/Nurkic/Lopez/Zubac mold. He sure doesn't look like he's mobile like the Wemby/Holmgren/Adebayo/Turner/Gafford crowd. That doesn't mean he can't be effective, in his role. Zubac is practically an all-star now



why do you want to take all the fun out of over-reaction?
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Haha fair
 
e_blazer said:
Didn’t have to because of draft position and great scouting. OTOH, are you of the opinion that a guy at 11 like Coward is certain to be more than a mid-level player, or that the Blazers can’t find similar talent in the FA market?
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he is neither a good fit nor was he bpa at 11/16. this is a drastic overreach by a gm who has job security without oversight.
 
illmatic99 said:
he is neither a good fit nor was he bpa at 11/16. this is a drastic overreach by a gm who has job security without oversight.
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I think he has no job security, him getting paid is secured but we know new ownership is coming soon. As far as no oversight, maybe Bert decided to check out when they started the auction but I don't know that, the last I heard Bert had to approve everything and even when nothing was going on Joe and Chauncey had to have multiple meetings every month with the guy.
 
Here's one thing to ponder/consider.

With the trade they made, they get 2 2nd rounders and a 1st round pick.

Could that have been the best offer they received for the 11th pick? As in, maybe the offers they received didn't include a future 1st in addition to draft assets in the future AND a pick this year?

I mean, if you told me the options were drafting Kaspar at 11 (which clearly would've been a reach since he dropped to 20th), and that's it VS taking a flier on MmmBop AND get a future 1st plus 2 future 2nd round picks, I'd probably lean towards the 2nd package.

Maybe that was the best offer they got. And maybe that future 1st (in 28) is a safety net in case they have to, at that point, give Chicago the 1st round pick and it means they can't swap with the Bucks.

Maybe no other team was offering what they got, and if that's the case it's probably a smart trade. Takes a shot at a guy who could be a decent player + save them potentially from losing a draft pick in 28 AND accumulate more 2nd round picks to sacrifice to the basketball gods when they finally build a new stadium.
 
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