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wizenheimer said:
it's protected for picks 1-5 so you can bet the Mavericks will be really pulling for a long-shot result in the lottery

right now, Dallas has about a 10% chance to land in the top-4. But they are only 2.5 games behind Orlando which has a 32% chance at top-4; and 4 games behind Memphis which has a 37% chance

I'd anticipate Dallas 'suffering' a lot of minor injuries the rest of the way
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I'm sure Dallas would love a top-5 pick this year, but the longer the pick to Atlanta isn't conveyed it kind of messes with not being able to trade any future picks so it might be okay with them to just get it out of the way too.
 
wizenheimer said:
it's protected for picks 1-5 so you can bet the Mavericks will be really pulling for a long-shot result in the lottery

right now, Dallas has about a 10% chance to land in the top-4. But they are only 2.5 games behind Orlando which has a 32% chance at top-4; and 4 games behind Memphis which has a 37% chance

I'd anticipate Dallas 'suffering' a lot of minor injuries the rest of the way
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I agree thats why I don't think they are done re-engineering the team with another trade.
 
Fournier is a rock solid player but i do not think the Blazers need a hybrid SG/ SF they need a true SF who might be able to play a touch of the 4 in some match ups. I have nothing against Fournier but he reminds me of a slightly better version of Arron Afflalo. Only way this deal MIGHT make some sense is if Turner is going in the deal cause they are similar type players cept Fournier i believe is better so MAYBE if its Turner but both on the Blazers -- no thanks.
 
wizenheimer said:
I don't know about all that as it sure requires a lot of assumptions to be true

but maybe I'm operating under an assumption that may, or may not be true myself. I know there are at least a couple of accountant/financial-planners posting here who may be able to disabuse me of some faulty assumptions I may have:

Paul Allen had a huge estate at the time of his death...over 20B. Even though he was heavy into non-profits and had supposedly pledged to give away a substantial portion of his wealth, there will still be a substantial portion going to his heirs, including the Seahawks and Blazers. The Seahawks are worth around 2.6-2.8B. The Blazers are worth around 1.3B and I don't believe that includes the Moda Center which is a separate entity, although I may have that wrong. So that's at least 4B, maybe quite a bit more, for the sports franchises....

....what will the estate taxes be on just those sports franchises? on 4 billion? The top rate is 40% but obviously, much of it would be taxed at a lower rate. I know there are plenty of loopholes, but even if they could get the total tax on the sports teams down to 15%, that's still at least 600M. Where is that cash going to come from? Jody Allen has said she wants to keep the Seahawks and that she will continue to run the Vulcan group. I'm assuming the Vulcan Group carries non-sports assets on it's books that might be worth a few billion more.

but if eventually, there is an estate tax bill approaching 1 billion and she has little interest in running the Blazers or owning it, the solution sure seems to be to raise the needed tax cash by selling the least favorite sports team

now maybe, they've done such masterful financial planning that I'm significantly over-estimating the estate tax. But that's why I'm asking this as a question
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I don't have any inside information at all, but I'd be pretty surprised if Paul didn't have a lot of cash and things easily convertible to cash (stocks, gold, slave women) that could be used to pay any taxes on the hard assets.

barfo
 
hoopsjock said:
I'm sure Dallas would love a top-5 pick this year, but the longer the pick to Atlanta isn't conveyed it kind of messes with not being able to trade any future picks so it might be okay with them to just get it out of the way too.
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They've already traded 21 and 23 firsts, though, right? So already severely limited.
 
RR7 said:
They've already traded 21 and 23 firsts, though, right? So already severely limited.
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Yes, 2025 is the earliest first they will be able to trade even if they give Atlanta their pick this year and nobody will really give much value for 2025 picks for at least two or three more years.
 
RR7 said:
They've already traded 21 and 23 firsts, though, right? So already severely limited.
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Yes, but what I'm saying is that if they don't convey the pick to Atlanta this year then they owe them a 2020 1st (also top 5 protected next year) so then the Knicks 2021 1st gets pushed to 2022 at the earliest and the other one to 2024.
 
Steph curry on the trading block! Kerr is sick of him!
 
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TBpup said:
I wouldn't be surprised if Portland's 'move' is something like Thon(g) Maker.
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Wouldn’t make much sense right now unless it was just done to replace an outgoing Meyers in a separate deal.
 
Meyers the Right to Swap 1sts, and future 2nds to Milwaukee for Ilyasova and Maker?
 
Scalma said:
Wouldn’t make much sense right now unless it was just done to replace an outgoing Meyers in a separate deal.
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Oh, you thought Neil was going to do something that made sense? I see how it was confusing.... :biglaugh:

Giving up Vonleh for cap space.....what a joke.
Signing Meyers, Harkless, Crabbe and Turner to massive money and all at 4 year deals.

None of it makes sense.
 
Rumors and action has been quiet the past couple days.
 
https://www.google.com/amp/s/heavy....rs-trade-rumors-otto-porter-aaron-gordon/amp/


Blazers Trade Talk: Top Otto Porter, Aaron Gordon Packages

Blazers Move Trio of Young Forwards in Otto Porter Trade
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If we’re being honest here, how the Blazers view both Al-Farouq Aminu and Maurice Harkless is going to be a big part of this. But even more important is how the Wizards view the two forwards. Both players have upside and can provide a decent amount on both ends of the floor. This is a pretty solid pull for the Wizards, assuming they like the duo.

Meyers Leonard is a player who hasn’t been all that productive to this point in his career, but the Wizards need depth on the front line and he’d provide that. I also think Leonard going to a less-crowded frontcourt could benefit him in a big way. I like how this would work for both sides, especially if Harkless and Leonard can hit their stride.


Blazers Build Pick-Heavy Trade for Aaron Gordon
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*Blazers trade two first-round picks (one protected) to Magic

Zach Lowe detailed in the same ESPN storyabove that the Blazers have “put their first-round pick in play” when it comes to possible trades. Not only does it get used here, but the team adds one more first-rounder in a deal that bolsters their outlook both this season and beyond.

Aaron Gordon has the type of upside and playmaking ability to ease the pressure off Damian Lillard, CJ McCollum and Jusuf Nurkic. Their starting five would immediately look scary on paper, and they’d add Terrence Ross as a go-to option off the bench. The big issue with this trade stems from the Magic’s viewpoint of the players coming back.

While the aforementioned Aminu and Harkless offer a decent amount of value, Seth Curry would likely be a rental player, unless Orlando opts to keep him. Evan Turner has been hit-or-miss throughout his career, but can provide scoring off the bench and has flashed upside. Another option for both sides could be to take Ross and one Blazers player out of the deal, along with the protected pick, and work out a smaller package.
 
BigGameDamian said:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/heavy....rs-trade-rumors-otto-porter-aaron-gordon/amp/


Blazers Trade Talk: Top Otto Porter, Aaron Gordon Packages

Blazers Move Trio of Young Forwards in Otto Porter Trade
screen-shot-2019-02-02-at-3.20.32-pm.png

ESPN NBA Trade Machine

If we’re being honest here, how the Blazers view both Al-Farouq Aminu and Maurice Harkless is going to be a big part of this. But even more important is how the Wizards view the two forwards. Both players have upside and can provide a decent amount on both ends of the floor. This is a pretty solid pull for the Wizards, assuming they like the duo.

Meyers Leonard is a player who hasn’t been all that productive to this point in his career, but the Wizards need depth on the front line and he’d provide that. I also think Leonard going to a less-crowded frontcourt could benefit him in a big way. I like how this would work for both sides, especially if Harkless and Leonard can hit their stride.


Blazers Build Pick-Heavy Trade for Aaron Gordon
screen-shot-2019-02-02-at-3.22.57-pm.png

ESPN NBA Trade Machine

*Blazers trade two first-round picks (one protected) to Magic

Zach Lowe detailed in the same ESPN storyabove that the Blazers have “put their first-round pick in play” when it comes to possible trades. Not only does it get used here, but the team adds one more first-rounder in a deal that bolsters their outlook both this season and beyond.

Aaron Gordon has the type of upside and playmaking ability to ease the pressure off Damian Lillard, CJ McCollum and Jusuf Nurkic. Their starting five would immediately look scary on paper, and they’d add Terrence Ross as a go-to option off the bench. The big issue with this trade stems from the Magic’s viewpoint of the players coming back.

While the aforementioned Aminu and Harkless offer a decent amount of value, Seth Curry would likely be a rental player, unless Orlando opts to keep him. Evan Turner has been hit-or-miss throughout his career, but can provide scoring off the bench and has flashed upside. Another option for both sides could be to take Ross and one Blazers player out of the deal, along with the protected pick, and work out a smaller package.
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Man, you must have poor vision...
 
Dario Saric has not fit in with Minnesota at all. That’s a guy we should be targeting if we lose out on Mirotic.

Bayless expiring and Saric for Meyers or Moe, Stauskas or Baldwin, and a first?
 
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Us actually being mentioned in trade rumours/talks gets me excited but not hopeful.

Scalma said:
Dario Saric has not fit in with Minnesota at all. That’s a guy we should be targeting if we lose out on Mirotic.
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This so much, Saric last year looked like a potentially great playmaking forward with stretch ability. Playing somewhere he’d be appreciated would get the best out of him and he fits our team perfectly
 
TBpup said:
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/...s-76ers-rockets-interested-in-nikola-mirotic/

"Portland, which is very much a buyer for roster depth at the deadline, could be a factor for Mirotic, and the Rockets have long coveted him as a long-range big man. Both are expected to make a pitch for him."
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I love how one writer has info on us, and it's now on 40 different sites, and makes you feel like theres definitely action. When in reality, they're all just Ben Gollivering the story.
 
RR7 said:
I love how one writer has info on us, and it's now on 40 different sites, and makes you feel like theres definitely action. When in reality, they're all just Ben Gollivering the story.
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Yup, one guy wrote some stuff now everyone is basically reporting the report heh. :)
 
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Saric in the playoffs last year

10 games
17.2 ppg
7.3 rpg
3.5 APG
1.0 SPG
42% FG
39% 3PT

It was predictable he wouldn’t fit in Thibs system. I don’t know what system their new coach runs but I do know fucking Luol Deng gets minutes over him in crunch time. It’s a joke.
 
Scalma said:
Saric in the playoffs last year

10 games
17.2 ppg
7.3 rpg
3.5 APG
1.0 SPG
42% FG
39% 3PT
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I'd absolutely like him here. It may have been rough i MIN but he's much better there this year than the short time he was in Philly.
 
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