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RR7 said:
bbref has Lillard playing PG 100% of the time, and we know he is often taken off of opposing PGs, so that seems really doubtful to me.
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true, but I don't think that's the determination. Dame plays PG, like Chris Paul. Just like Gobert & Embiid play C. Those are defaults locked in from years of observation

but when it comes to those sliding positional determinations for SG-SF, SF-PF and PF-C, I think 'you-are-who-you-guard' takes precedence
 
Simmons don’t like to play for the Blazers. He prefers the Warriors or the Lakers.
 
DDolla said:
Simmons don’t like to play for the Blazers. He prefers the Warriors or the Lakers.
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Well, he's under contract and needs a cold water to the face splash of reality. It's coming this Summer. Dame Lillard is probably second only to LeBron in terms of guys the League respects. I don't mean his talent level, I mean his overall respect in the League is legitimately JUST below LeBron, the face of the League. If anyone can get Simmons head on straight it's Dame and Billups. I don't worry about this Simmons can't do this, he said that stuff, I worry about Olshey having a fucking clue when I hear shit like he turned down a CJ for Siakam trade. Like holy fuck fire him right away and hire Ujiri right FUCKING NAO!!!!!!!
 
SlyPokerCat said:
Simmons to Warriors, Draymond to Blazers, CJ to Sixers. Picks and whatever thrown in.
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I could live with that actually, I mean actually that sounds great if we get to keep Ant and Little. I'm not as worried about picks as long as they are for when we still have Dame under contract. It's not quite as tasty as Siakam and Simmons, but with Dray you know exactly what you're going to get, a LEGENDARY competitor who also has an otherworldly BBIQ and IIRC likes to mentor younger players. OK I've sold myself. Dray to the Blazers for CJ + DJJ and picks. I'd even give up Ant, but not Little.
 
DDolla said:
Simmons don’t like to play for the Blazers. He prefers the Warriors or the Lakers.
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The first time that's been said was today by this guy.

https://twitter.com/JDumasReports

That's a Bay Area sports talk radio host, local news sports guy and Bay Area sports related writer for Bleacher Report. Dude said a bunch of shit trying to push the narrative that the Warriors were the best destination. Typical stuff from a local sports talk guy in a huge/entitled California market.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
Simmons to Warriors, Draymond to Blazers, CJ to Sixers. Picks and whatever thrown in.
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here's a framework I found that works. Matching Salaries was surprisingly tough. I guess with Simmons, Wiggins, Steph and then Klay returning (maybe). They can spare these guards and Damion might be OK as a back up SF.

Blazers end up with.

PG: Lillard/TPMLE vet PG/Ant
SG: Powell/McLemore/Lee/Elleby/Poole
SF: RoCo/Snell/Little
PF: Green/RoCo/Zeller
C: Nurkic/Zeller/Giles if we retain him

That's not bad at all. I think Dame would give that a real chance. the defense looks amazing. We also definitely want to do another consolidation trade around our endless SF/SG's. Perhaps for Marcus Smart?

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blazerkor said:
The first time that's been said was today by this guy.

https://twitter.com/JDumasReports

That's a Bay Area sports talk radio host, local news sports guy and Bay Area sports related writer for Bleacher Report. Dude said a bunch of shit trying to push the narrative that the Warriors were the best destination. Typical stuff from a local sports talk guy in a huge/entitled California market.
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Thanks for that! DAME COME HOME ALREADY THE MEDIA IS KILLING US WITH THIS PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE!
 
Idog1976 said:
I could live with that actually, I mean actually that sounds great if we get to keep Ant and Little. I'm not as worried about picks as long as they are for when we still have Dame under contract. It's not quite as tasty as Siakam and Simmons, but with Dray you know exactly what you're going to get, a LEGENDARY competitor who also has an otherworldly BBIQ and IIRC likes to mentor younger players. OK I've sold myself. Dray to the Blazers for CJ + DJJ and picks. I'd even give up Ant, but not Little.
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His biggest skill though is screaming at and berating the refs with impunity. We could use some of that.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
So, trading CJ for Draymond will make us one of the worst teams in the league?
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We would be better than we are if we had Dray but he's nowhere close to as dynamic as Simmons is right now on offense... his shooting also is not good... his defense is nowhere close to Simmons and that's now. At 25 Simmons could become so much more... an actual superstar. Dray wouldn't even be as good of a pickup as Siakam. I do think that picking up Dray might keep Dame here for longer but it probably doesn't get us out of the second round and it definitely doesn't make us a contender.

I've always thought that Dray is a great glue guy, a leader on defense, a very solid but not elite defender, an incredible secondary play maker and highly overrated overall. When successful he's been all of those things while playing third fiddle to Steph and Klay and most successful when they added KD making him the fourth best player on the team. Dude is a phenomenal fourth best player on a team but while being a better fit here is probably a worse second best player... all things considered, than CJ. So I wouldn't be cool with giving up CJ's great scoring and good passing abilities plus DJ and some picks for Dray's overrated but almost great defense and elite secondary offensive facilitating.

So if CJ is going to the Sixers, Dray is coming here and Simmons is going to the Warriors... the Warriors better be ponying up the extra assets that make the trade work and what assets would those be that would be better than what we could just give Philly for Simmons. The Warriors draft picks have to be viewed as worse than ours and the players they'd give up aren't better than ours.

I'd be cool with CJ for Dray, if that was the only trade to make. It would obviously be better than Neil sitting on his hands but Dray is not an ideal fit with this roster and really puts way too much weight on Dame and Norm to be the only two dynamic guys that can get their own shot and Norm doesn't do that at a high level.
 
Idog1976 said:
here's a framework I found that works. Matching Salaries was surprisingly tough. I guess with Simmons, Wiggins, Steph and then Klay returning (maybe). They can spare these guards and Damion might be OK as a back up SF.

Blazers end up with.

PG: Lillard/TPMLE vet PG/Ant
SG: Powell/McLemore/Lee/Elleby/Poole
SF: RoCo/Snell/Little
PF: Green/RoCo/Zeller
C: Nurkic/Zeller/Giles if we retain him

That's not bad at all. I think Dame would give that a real chance. the defense looks amazing. We also definitely want to do another consolidation trade around our endless SF/SG's. Perhaps for Marcus Smart?

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id rather take back simmons and remove GS altogether. while i like draymond, i question his impact without a guy who can move without the ball like Steph.
 
I’d take Oubre. He’s fairly young, a dawg mentality on the court and decent defensively.

Would hope he could replicate that year he had with Phoenix 2 years back.

His jumper was dog water with the Warriors and he made lots of boneheaded plays. But ya gotta gamble when you’re Portland
 
illmatic99 said:
id rather take back simmons and remove GS altogether. while i like draymond, i question his impact without a guy who can move without the ball like Steph.
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I question his impact with a guy like Steph... did you see those two do anything special this last season? He needs Steph and Klay at least and then there's the fact that he made his reputation playing with those two and KD. So of course we should just take Simmons if possible.
 
MickZagger said:
I’d take Oubre. He’s fairly young, a dawg mentality on the court and decent defensively.

Would hope he could replicate that year he had with Phoenix 2 years back.

His jumper was dog water with the Warriors and he made lots of boneheaded plays. But ya gotta gamble when you’re Portland
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Yeah, I think if we could get Oubre with the TPMLE that would be the best.
 
DD paying no mind at all to the shambles Clippers. He's a Raptor for life.

 
Scalma said:
do people not use their brains anymore? The interest is obviously there if they’re having discussions about a trade. The safe guess is Toronto is asking for more than just CJ and Olshey isn’t as interested in that right now. Could still be revisited later.
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Media are in full on attack the Blazers mode, so obvious. Just twisted Jake's reporting. And Sean Highkin? Fuck that guy.
 
HailBlazers said:
Media are in full on attack the Blazers mode, so obvious. Just twisted Jake's reporting. And Sean Highkin? Fuck that guy.
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highkin is the biggest little bitch in Portland. Never mind the way he treated that whole Billups thing, I still laugh at his “report” that ownership wasn’t in line with olshey on the head coach search only for Billups to be hired like a day later. Absolute clown.
 
If it was Siakam straight across for CJ, that's a major fail by Neil. But I've got to believe that Toronto is asking for way more. I give Toronto a future 1st, who cares. This is about the now. Hopefully the full story isn't coming out in this. And there still are open channels. Trades are not always cut and dry, and sometimes take time to get all the details done.
 
Scalma said:
highkin is the biggest little bitch in Portland. Never mind the way he treated that whole Billups thing, I still laugh at his “report” that ownership wasn’t in line with olshey on the head coach search only for Billups to be hired like a day later. Absolute clown.
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He's a soy boy
 
Sorry, but I don't get the ease that people are throwing in the future first rounders in trade scenarios. When you can't get fa's to come here you have to build through the draft. If they were gonna add those picks like some suggest, they will end up in this same position in a year or two.
 
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