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Funny as hell to me as to how Biden haters will gleefully hang onto anything negative to discredit him, whether factual or simply perceived.

For me, I'll take Joe's idiot Son and faux pas as well as his accomplishments over Trump's any day...but again, it's still funny as hell to watch.
 
Right. One person sometimes stumbles and has a troubled son. One person has daily fits of incoherent rage and is under indictments in four venues, while his son in law got $2 billion from Saudi Arabia. Yet we are supposed to consider the first guy hopelessly senile while the other boasts of his brilliance.
 
crandc said:
I remember where I was but if you asked me what day of the week, I don't remember. And I am not senile. Also, I worked a job with a regular time and place schedule which makes it easier. If I traveled a lot it might be harder to remember.
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Are you saying you wouldn't remember if you were at Ground Zero the day after 9/11? Not buying it.
 
tlongII said:
Are you saying you wouldn't remember if you were at Ground Zero the day after 9/11? Not buying it.
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Not what I said.

And if I lost "hundreds of friends" as Trump claimed I would be able to name at least a few.
 
tlongII said:
Are you saying you wouldn't remember if you were at Ground Zero the day after 9/11? Not buying it.
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Wanna compare Trump's faux pas to Biden's?... he's looking at "mental acuity", to use your term, in the rear view mirror...is it due to his age, or does his idiocy come naturally?


 
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yankeesince59 said:
Wanna compare Trump's faux pas to Biden's?... he's looking at "mental acuity", to use your term, in the rear view mirror...is it due to his age, or does his idiocy come naturally?


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Why would I want to compare Biden to Trump? Trump is a crook and a narcissist. His idiocy does come naturally. All I'm saying is that Biden is either a liar or he is mentally impaired. Maybe both.
 
tlongII said:
I don't believe that Biden can't remember that he was at Ground Zero the DAY AFTER 9/11 for a minute. That is, unless he is mentally impaired. That's ridiculous in my opinion.
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He remembers he was there soon after. Does he remember the exact number of days? Probably not. It's very understandable that he wouldn't remember if it was 8 days or 3 days after.

Saying "the day after" instead of "a few days after" is a very typical stretch of the truth for a politician.

Biden has stuck his foot in his mouth as long as he's been a politician. This is nothing new.

And again. I really don't like Biden. I wouldn't say I hate him, but I REALLY don't like him.

I just think you're reaching here.
 
Phatguysrule said:
He remembers he was there soon after. Does he remember the exact number of days? Probably not. It's very understandable that he wouldn't remember if it was 8 days or 3 days after.

Saying "the day after" instead of "a few days after" is a very typical stretch of the truth for a politician.

Biden has stuck his foot in his mouth as long as he's been a politician. This is nothing new.

And again. I really don't like Biden. I wouldn't say I hate him, but I REALLY don't like him.

I just think you're reaching here.
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I dont think its a stretch at all. I lived in upstate ny send i can pretty much outline what i was doing hour by hour from 9/11-9/16 when we were turned away mid morning due to an overwhelming response of dump trucks in need. From then on life started going back to normal. But during that time frame its as vivid as yesterday to me.
 
People have selective memories. It's not a sign of mental decline, it's a sign of letting go of unnecessary dates and times in your life. We all do that. 23 years ago my Mandarin Chinese was a hell of a lot better than it is today. If you don't use it, you lose it. If I go back to Taiwan, within about 2 weeks it all comes back to me. That's life. I got a high school reunion notice in 2022 and I was shocked at how many kids I grew up with for the first 17 years of my life that I couldn't remember their last names, etc...I'm not a very nostalgic person so I don't cling on to the past much. I've memorized thousands of songs in my life and some I sang for years I have to brush up on or I forget a verse, etc. Comes with age I guess.
 
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BlazerBender said:
I dont think its a stretch at all. I lived in upstate ny send i can pretty much outline what i was doing hour by hour from 9/11-9/16 when we were turned away mid morning due to an overwhelming response of dump trucks in need. From then on life started going back to normal. But during that time frame its as vivid as yesterday to me.
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I don't think Biden lived in NY at the time, so I can certainly understand that his perspective on the attack wouldn't be the same as somebody who lived in New York.

I know my perspective isn't anything like what you're describing.

I posted a link above showing how unreliable the memory of even very healthy people are.

You may think you remember everything, but it's highly unlikely that you actually remember that whole timeframe exactly as it happened.
 
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I remember reading about JFK's legislative and policy successes during his presidency. Something I found fascinating was his administration got more done after his assassination than before. This was attributed to the fact that Kennedy had an all-star cabinet. When Johnson took over he kept pretty much everyone in place.

Biden has a good administration and staff. Very experienced. A President can't do it all. They shouldn't do it all. They are administrators, not worker bees.

When comparing it to some of the chuckleheads and idiot Yes-Men/Women that Trump surrounded himself with you can see why Trump got so little done policywise especially when you factor in that he had a Republican House and Senate for a majority of his term.

Biden is old. There is no arguing that. But his years of high-level political experience and working relationships with politicians from both parties give him an advantage that younger presidents wouldn't have.
 
When 9/11 happened, I remember thinking, "shit, I was in the PATH station under WTC just X days ago". Can't remember now what X was. Yet I remember doing the calculation.

Telling a story and getting a fact wrong is extremely common, especially as you age. It doesn't imply dementia. Getting old is a drag, and sometimes you have unexpected verbal farts. Young people think it's gross, but young people are kind of prissy.

barfo
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I remember reading about JFK's legislative and policy successes during his presidency. Something I found fascinating was his administration got more done after his assassination than before. This was attributed to the fact that Kennedy had an all-star cabinet. When Johnson took over he kept pretty much everyone in place.

Biden has a good administration and staff. Very experienced. A President can't do it all. They shouldn't do it all. They are administrators, not worker bees.

When comparing it to some of the chuckleheads and idiot Yes-Men/Women that Trump surrounded himself with you can see why Trump got so little done policywise especially when you factor in that he had a Republican House and Senate for a majority of his term.

Biden is old. There is no arguing that. But his years of high-level political experience and working relationships with politicians from both parties give him an advantage that younger presidents wouldn't have.
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well said...and Biden knows the geopolitical landscape probably better than any other current politician in office.
 
tlongII said:
Why would I want to compare Biden to Trump? Trump is a crook and a narcissist. His idiocy does come naturally. All I'm saying is that Biden is either a liar or he is mentally impaired. Maybe both.
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...and Biden is neither...that's really all you had to say.

It's clear that you don't for Biden, and I get it, but I really think you're trying a bit too hard to make this into some big story. Personally, I don't see it.
 
Saw a cartoon depicting Republicans preparing to burn Biden at the stake while saying we'll find something he did.
 
Phatguysrule said:
I don't think Biden lived in NY at the time, so I can certainly understand that his perspective on the attack wouldn't be the same as somebody who lived in New York.

I know my perspective isn't anything like what you're describing.

I posted a link above showing how unreliable the memory of even very healthy people are.

You may think you remember everything, but it's highly unlikely that you actually remember that whole timeframe exactly as it happened.
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barfo said:
When 9/11 happened, I remember thinking, "shit, I was in the PATH station under WTC just X days ago". Can't remember now what X was. Yet I remember doing the calculation.

Telling a story and getting a fact wrong is extremely common, especially as you age. It doesn't imply dementia. Getting old is a drag, and sometimes you have unexpected verbal farts. Young people think it's gross, but young people are kind of prissy.

barfo
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Fair enough but doesn't the importance of the moment play a part as to how memories are prioritized, so to speak?

meaning of course i dont remember what i had for lunch to weeks ago. But something like 911 makes the moment unforgettable?
Not all memories are the same as far as impact and importance. I wouldn't think twice of Noe cant remember what he said a few weeks back. But most Americans know exactly wheee they were at 9:30 on 9/11. I believe it was a Tuesday.

Of course great minds don't remember everything. But great minds remember the important things.
im not trying to knock Joe per say. Just speaking about memories of 911. And yes i do agree my memories sre likely more vovid than those who lived in other parts of the country. I was there. It impacted me directly. So there is that. But man. That's an important event in my lifetime and ill never forget where i was and what i was doing.


On the side, living in ny at that time showed me how much we, as Americans can unite. Im not talking about the weeks after where there was racial hated building for all muslims and Arabs. But the first hours and day or two of how everyone came together. Driving home seeing every porch lit up with candles.
So ill concede my memories likely stick more than most others.
Anyhow, just speaking on that day and the impact it had, to me, makes it a hard thing to forget, compared to daily, forgettable events.
 
BlazerBender said:
Fair enough but doesn't the importance of the moment play a part as to how memories are prioritized, so to speak?

meaning of course i dont remember what i had for lunch to weeks ago. But something like 911 makes the moment unforgettable?
Not all memories are the same as far as impact and importance. I wouldn't think twice of Noe cant remember what he said a few weeks back. But most Americans know exactly wheee they were at 9:30 on 9/11. I believe it was a Tuesday.

Of course great minds don't remember everything. But great minds remember the important things.
im not trying to knock Joe per say. Just speaking about memories of 911. And yes i do agree my memories sre likely more vovid than those who lived in other parts of the country. I was there. It impacted me directly. So there is that. But man. That's an important event in my lifetime and ill never forget where i was and what i was doing.


On the side, living in ny at that time showed me how much we, as Americans can unite. Im not talking about the weeks after where there was racial hated building for all muslims and Arabs. But the first hours and day or two of how everyone came together. Driving home seeing every porch lit up with candles.
So ill concede my memories likely stick more than most others.
Anyhow, just speaking on that day and the impact it had, to me, makes it a hard thing to forget, compared to daily, forgettable events.
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It's just not reliable. And bigger moments increase stress, which can actually make the memory less reliable.

This is why eye witness reports can vary so wildly. Different people who are at the same spot, witnessing the same crime often report different things.

Our memories simply aren't photographic.

And again, I wouldn't put it past Biden to embellish parts of the story. He has always done that.
 
Hillary Clinton left office as secretary of state with a 76% approval rating. McCarthy held Benghazi hearing with stated aim of lowering her poll numbers by making her look guilty of something. With assists from Russia, Comey and major media, by 2016 election most voters actually thought Trump was the more honest and trustworthy candidate. He actually received fewer votes in key swing states than Romney, but Clinton got way fewer than Obama. A lot of people saw no choice and didn't vote.

Same playbook. And it's working. Most people now think Trump and Biden are equally corrupt and mentally incompetent. Trump's floor is also his ceiling. He won't win new voters. But if Republicans can convince enough voters there is no difference, they stay home. The only way Trump can win is low turnout, because his cult will vote.
 
I remember VIVIDLY and EXACTLY where I was when;



When Kennedy was shot (at home because it was coincidentally also the first time I missed a day of school)

When we landed on the moon (at a friend's house watching it on TV)

When my Son was born (In the delivery room savoring every minute)

When I got the news that John Lennon had been shot (watching Monday Night Football...Howard Cosell broke the news)

When I got the call that my Dad had passed away (I was mowing the grass and my wife called me inside saying my Brother was on the phone)

When the 2nd jet hit the 2nd Tower (at my Golf Shop watching it live on TV)
 



White House: House GOP plan for impeachment is to ‘figure out the evidence later’

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The White House on Tuesday hit House Republicans for the impeachment inquiry into President Biden, saying that their plan is to figure out the evidence after declaring he is guilty.

“The most extreme members of the House Republican caucus – the very people Speaker McCarthy has put in charge of the baseless impeachment stunt – have revealed their plan: declare guilt first, figure out the ‘evidence’ later,” the White House said in a memo first obtained by The Hill.

The memo outlined that lawmakers like Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), House Oversight Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.), Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) and Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) have declared that Biden should be treated as a criminal and that there is enough evidence against him.

But, the memo outlines that other House Republicans “are refuting these outrageous false claims,” highlighting lawmakers like Rep. Ken Buck (R-Colo), who said in a recent opinion piece that his colleagues are “relying on an imagined history” for impeachment.

“They are on a politically motivated fishing expedition that willfully ignores that their allegations have been repeatedly refuted not just by the White House, or Democrats in Congress, or the mainstream media, but by their own Republican colleagues,” the White House said. “The more time they waste on this wild goose chase, the more they reveal how much of a political stunt this inquiry truly is.”

McCarthy last week moved to direct House committees to open a formal impeachment inquiry into Biden. The House investigations have centered on Biden’s son Hunter Biden and his business dealings in Ukraine.

The House Oversight and Accountability Committee has not found that the president directly financially benefited from his son’s business or proved that he made any policy decisions because of them.

The impeachment drive by the House GOP has divided the Republican Party, with a number of Senate Republicans making it clear they oppose the effort and think it lacks evidence. The White House has highlighted those divisions in other memos too over the last month.
 
The very stable genius called Biden's speech to United Nations surrender, to whom not specified, adding the chamber was empty. Photos show a full room. Who do you believe, Trump or your lying eyes?
 
crandc said:
The very stable genius called Biden's speech to United Nations surrender, to whom not specified, adding the chamber was empty. Photos show a full room. Who do you believe, Trump or your lying eyes?
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Yup;

Trump knocks Biden’s UN address as a ‘surrender’ speech

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Former President Donald Trump took aim at President Biden’s address to world leaders at the 2023 United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) on Tuesday, referring to his potential 2024 election opponent’s speech as a “surrender” to which nobody “showed up” in a recent post on TruthSocial.

“Biden just finished his surrender (“speech”) at the United Nations, and nobody, despite all we give them, showed up,” Trump wrote in a post on TruthSocial. “No respect for America any longer!”

The GOP frontrunner’s comments came after Biden appealed to the heads of state and government from at least 145 countries at the organization’s headquarters in New York, urging them to unite in support of Ukraine as the Russian invasion continues.

“Russia believes that the world will grow weary and allow it to brutalize Ukraine without consequence,” Biden said. “But I ask you this: If we abandon the core principles of the U.N. Charter to appease an aggressor, can any member state feel confident that they are protected?”

The president affirmed America’s commitment to “stand with the brave people of Ukraine as they defend their sovereignty and territorial integrity — and their freedom,” encouraging his international allies and partners to do the same. The Biden administration is currently working on securing approval from Congress to provide $24 billion in additional funding for Ukraine but must contend with resistance from some conservative House members.

Trump, who has said during this year’s election cycle that he would end the war in 24 hours and would not commit to sending aid to Ukraine if re-elected,(Trump) last addressed the UNGA in 2018 and was met with laughter from the audience after he claimed at the time that in his two years of office, he had “accomplished more than almost any administration in the history of our country.”
 
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Hoopguru said:
Joe needs to retire and enjoy his wife and grandkids. I voted for Joe but do have reservations about him running for 2024. Really, to allow him to continue in 2024 wouldn't be fair to Joe, imo. Time for Joe to retire.
Daily MailJoe Biden praises 'BLACK Caucus' during speech to Hispanic Caucus13 hours ago
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I tend to agree, but the guy has gotten some positive things done, even with the Republican clown circus in the House. Just getting anything passed in the current House is laudable. And for whatever it is worth, my retirement accounts have done far, far better in 3 years under Biden than they did in 4 years under Trump. Biden (unfortunately) is the lesser of two evils.....
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
I tend to agree, but the guy has gotten some positive things done, even with the Republican clown circus in the House. Just getting anything passed in the current House is laudable. And for whatever it is worth, my retirement accounts have done far, far better in 3 years under Biden than they did in 4 years under Trump. Biden (unfortunately) is the lesser of two evils.....
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It wouldn't matter who dems run against Trump they would win hands down.
 
I would love a young charismatic president with progressive views who is a master negotiator, likes cats, and preferably something other than white male. But in the real world we are almost certainly looking at a Biden vs Trump choice. Biden was not one of my top five picks in 2020 but this is the reality.
It's not a hard choice.
 
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