Politics The Joe Biden Thread (2 Viewers)

[beast blazer]

It's been leaked from secret service, and other sources that Biden shits his pants when he gets mad. This old senile corrupt geezer is leading us as the world is on the brink of WW3.

 

[beast blazer]

I do not beleive Biden is senile.

I do beleive Biden has a long history of poor decision making. A combination of slow walking timely decisions, then doing too little, too late. Then Biden changes his mind creating bigger problems, even when handed the best answer. Then Biden blames the problems he creates on others, while claiming to have the only answer. Biden is one big fuck up.

Leaders around the world consider Biden very weak, and untrustworthy.

The only comparision I can think of between Biden and Trump is.

Neither one is qualified to be hired as a door greeter at Walmart, let alone have the most powerful position in the world.

Have you seen the videos of him turning around after speeches and trying to shake hands with people that aren't there? Getting lost, slurring his speech?

 

[Sheldon Shape]

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Behind closed doors? No, he's doing it out in public. Most democrats don't want him and have little confidence in him for a reason.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Behind closed doors? No, he's doing it out in public. Most democrats don't want him and have little confidence in him for a reason.

He's the safe pick. Pick somebody younger and the boomers might switch their votes to Trump.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

He's the safe pick. Pick somebody younger and the boomers might switch their votes to Trump.

He's trailing by double digits to a known criminal. That's not safe.

I wouldn't spend my time arguing that he's so different than the other party's nominee after he adopted his "inhumane" platform on immigration.

 

[Phatguysrule]

He's trailing by double digits to a known criminal. That's not safe.

I wouldn't spend my time arguing that he's so different than the other party's nominee after he adopted his "inhumane" platform on immigration.

I think that's the party platform, so they wouldn't have it any other way.

And he's definitely different than Trump. Who absolutely wants to be a dictator and has shown that he's willing to anything to tear the country down far enough to make that happen.

 

[beast blazer]

Here's more video of Joe Biden shitting himself

 

[Hoopguru]

Here's more video of Joe Biden shitting himself

Sad, anyone hear what that was about?

 

[Phatguysrule]

Sad, anyone hear what that was about?

He's just wanting to sit down. Jill is whispering to him that he shouldn't sit down yet, because nobody else is. You can see his left hand is feeling for the arm of a chair to steady himself.

https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/did-joe-biden-poop-32977522

Now a body language expert has analyzed the moment exclusively for Irish Star. The explained the moment, and whether the speculation may be true.

She said the president does look unsteady, and his strange pose when sitting down could well be attributed to age.

Judi said: "My take on it would be that he does look rather unsteady and confused, shaking hands with Macron and appearing to flinch or jolt slightly as the French President also pats him on the back.

"Biden then seems to assume that he should sit down, oblivious to the fact that the Macrons are still standing to attention beside him.

"The part crouch that he holds for quite a long time does resemble the action or pose that older people often use when sitting down, when the joins and limbs aren’t quite as fluid as they used to be."

While Biden easing himself into a chair might look like a young child relieving themselves, it's common for elderly people, Judi explained.

For further confirmation that Biden did not soil himself, Judi looked to his wife Jill Biden.

She explained: "Jill does bring her hand up to her mouth but it looks as though she’s holding it there to whisper to her husband that he should stay standing at this point.

"The ideas on social media that she is holding her nose wouldn’t make any sense to me. If the worst had happened (and I don’t think it has) she would never make it obvious or worse by performing a gesture like that. No spouse would, let alone a FLOTUS!"

 

[crandc]

Sounds like a lot of people with no idea what happened proclaiming what happened.

A fact. Cost of asthma inhalers now capped at $35 for anyone. It's called governing.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Sounds like a lot of people with no idea what happened proclaiming what happened.

A fact. Cost of asthma inhalers now capped at $35 for anyone. It's called governing.

$35 asthma inhalers in exchange for billions of dollars of foreign wars and genocide.

Sounds like a good deal.

 

[Phatguysrule]

$35 asthma inhalers in exchange for billions of dollars of foreign wars and genocide.

Sounds like a good deal.

While not ideal, it's far better than the trillions the prior guy cost us...as well as the blatant attacks on American democracy including unconstitutional police/jackboot attacks on Americans without a trial. Including at least one blatant murder (which he celebrated publicly as a victory).

 

[Sheldon Shape]

While not ideal, it's far better than the trillions the prior guy cost us...as well as the blatant attacks on American democracy including unconstitutional police/jackboot attacks on Americans without a trial. Including at least one blatant murder (which he celebrated publicly as a victory).

I used to do the "lesser of two evils" dance too, but both sides are nearly indistinguishable from each other these days.

It's like arguing between cancer and AIDS.

 

[Phatguysrule]

I used to do the "lesser of two evils" dance too, but both sides are nearly indistinguishable from each other these days.

It's like arguing between cancer and AIDS.

Yeah, if the Biden is melanoma of today and Trump is AIDS of 1980...

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Yeah, if the Biden is melanoma of today and Trump is AIDS of 1980...

Rudimentary. The problem is far larger than Trump or Biden. Your participation in the trap only perpetuates the trap.

 

[barfo]

Doesn't living in the United States involve 'participation in the trap'?

barfo

 

[Phatguysrule]

Rudimentary. The problem is far larger than Trump or Biden. Your participation in the trap only perpetuates the trap.

You're involved regardless of what you do. Refusing to vote just gives them more power because that leaves fewer people to convince.

But yes. The problem is much bigger than Biden or Trump.

But Trump is far more dangerous unless you actually want a civil war.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

You're involved regardless of what you do. Refusing to vote just gives them more power because that leaves fewer people to convince.

But yes. The problem is much bigger than Biden or Trump.

But Trump is far more dangerous unless you actually want a civil war.

I think we're on the brink. Trump or not. He's merely a symptom of the rotten system and the people's dissatisfaction with it.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Doesn't living in the United States involve 'participation in the trap'?

barfo

"If you don't like it, move then" said every racist ever.

 

[Phatguysrule]

I think we're on the brink. Trump or not. He's merely a symptom of the rotten system and the people's dissatisfaction with it.

I don't think we have any increased risk of civil war or any catastrophe with Biden.

With Trump, catastrophe seems almost certain.

 

[crandc]

In the past month my retirement account gained about $16,000. That's net gain over and above what I am taking from it to live on. Biden economy sure is terrible!

 

[julius]

In the past month my retirement account gained about $16,000. That's net gain over and above what I am taking from it to live on. Biden economy sure is terrible!

wrong, that's just the stock market getting excited knowing that Trump will be king...er, president again!

 

[riverman]

"If you don't like it, move then" said every racist ever.

The freedom to move is a choice as well as getting an abortion or becoming a first generation citizen with equal rights....our civil rights are being stripped away by the GOP and that's the deal breaker that makes the lesser of two evils a very real survival tool for democracy....I think you've stumbled upon a false equivalency trying to conflate Trump's cronies and Biden's network and foreign diplomacy...I'm not a big Biden fan but I'm not worried about my children's civil rights under his watch and i'm definitely against the authoritarian GOP..it's a complete no brainer which leader has been better for the country and represents all Americans.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

The freedom to move is a choice as well as getting an abortion or becoming a first generation citizen with equal rights....our civil rights are being stripped away by the GOP and that's the deal breaker that makes the lesser of two evils a very real survival tool for democracy....I think you've stumbled upon a false equivalency trying to conflate Trump's cronies and Biden's network and foreign diplomacy...I'm not a big Biden fan but I'm not worried about my children's civil rights under his watch and i'm definitely against the authoritarian GOP..it's a complete no brainer which leader has been better for the country and represents all Americans.

I understand where you're coming from and I'm not even arguing against it. I think your mistake is making this Trump v Biden, when in reality this is a party problem. You talk about losing civil rights, but you fail to mention much of the Democratic party is pretty complicit. They told voters their priorities were The Voting Rights Act and the George Floyd Act... and instead Pelosi showed up in Kente cloth. It's all performative and both parties serve their masters... the corporations and the donor class. Even if their public position is one thing, behind the scenes they're right there with their Republican coworkers. When Biden was running, he went to Wall Street and told them nothing would fundamentally change.

Both parties will go wherever their donors will go, even if that means selling out your civil rights. It's already happened in fact. You can't get a public sector job unless you sign away the right to criticize Israel. That's happening in Democratic states and that's eliminating your civil rights. That's just one of many examples.

If we don't draw the line at genocide, when will we? How long are we going to do the "lesser of two evils" dance while we continue to get fucked?

That dance is precisely why both parties don't give a shit about improving your life.

 

[jonnyboy]

In the past month my retirement account gained about $16,000. That's net gain over and above what I am taking from it to live on. Biden economy sure is terrible!

I know I get alot of shit for picking on the boomers, maybe i do it too much. THIS is precisely why though.
Young people will never own a home, can’t afford food or rent, are overdosing in the streets and the prospect of healthcare is a delusion.
The boomer metric of a good economy is “am I personally comfy”

 

[barfo]

"If you don't like it, move then" said every racist ever.

Nice. But not my point.

I was saying that you are also complicit by being part of this society. Like all of us, you are feeding the system with your tax dollars, your spending and any other contributions to the economy and the social system in general.

Withholding your vote doesn't change that. At all.

And as for moving, I already have a plan for doing that myself. Because if Trump wins, then I won't like it. I believe Trump will cause enough damage that the country will not recover for many years afterwards, and I don't wish to spend my few remaining years watching that.

I don't have any illusions that I can escape from politics and/or society in general. But I'll be in a place where people - at least for a short time - act slightly less stupidly than Americans - or if not that, at least act stupidly in a way that is more appealing to me.

So: if you like Trumpism so much, stay then. Hope it works out for you, but I'm skeptical that it will.

barfo

 

[riverman]

I know I get alot of shit for picking on the boomers, maybe i do it too much. THIS is precisely why though.
Young people will never own a home, can’t afford food or rent, are overdosing in the streets and the prospect of healthcare is a delusion.
The boomer metric of a good economy is “am I personally comfy”

Three of my children own homes. None grew up rich. My oldest son bought his first house in Arizona two weeks ago. He worked at the DMV and saved his money. His mortgage is 900 a month so you can weigh that against your claims that young people can’t buy a house today. Yes they can but you have to be willing to save money first. That’s a discipline all its own. My youngest son has paid off his house in Eugene and he’s only 33 years old. I think you are probably surrounded with young friends who haven’t figured out how to own a home yet and yes. It’s expensive to live in the most desirable areas. Choices. My oldest son found his house for 125 K.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

I know I get alot of shit for picking on the boomers, maybe i do it too much. THIS is precisely why though.
Young people will never own a home, can’t afford food or rent, are overdosing in the streets and the prospect of healthcare is a delusion.
The boomer metric of a good economy is “am I personally comfy”

You make some good (and very obvious) points but.......these are not new situations. They have been going on for years, regardless of who sits in the White House. When "Trump's economy" was supposedly booming, young people could not afford a home, couldn't afford food and rent, and were overdosing in the street. Democrats tried (and did to a certain extent) make health care a reality. The Republicans gutted it as much as they were allowed, and are trying to shit can it today. Things are demonstrably better under Biden even if they still suck in general. It's also demonstrable that things weren't a whole lot better in the mid '70's when I was coming of age and trying to find a place in the world. Instead of blaming the generations before us, we got on with the business of surviving.

Sorry, I try not to rag on the younger generations, but if the Boomers fucked up, it was handing out participation trophies so no one got their feelings hurt. Now these generations expect participation trophies just for waking up. There ARE, decent paying good jobs out there to be found. Unfortunately too many people think they can pick and choose indefinitely. Personally I would (and did) take a job no one else wanted. Having my own home and providing for my family were more important than a rainbows and unicorn job, pie in the sky "Dream" job. I stuck out a job I pretty much loathed for the last 20 years of it because it paid my bills and promised a halfway decent retirement. As @riverman is always saying, "Choices". And everyone's "metric" should be "Am I comfy?". And if the answer is "no", then they need to try something different. Today's younger generations whine more than the Boomers did at the same age. We faced so many of the same issues. We just weren't quite as quick to make excuses.

And one final word on the "Am I comfy thing"........As I have been told since I came of voting age, the primary metric in casting your vote for president is to ask yourself, "Am I better off today than I was 4 years ago?" The answer for me, @crandc and plenty more of us is a resounding and unequivocal HELL YES! I'll be 70 years old in another month and I spent a lifetime working hard. If you think you're going to shame me for caring about my comfort in my old age, you're just trying to shame me for living the American Dream (you know, the one the Right seems to think we left behind).

 

[jonnyboy]

Three of my children own homes. None grew up rich. My oldest son bought his first house in Arizona two weeks ago. He worked at the DMV and saved his money. His mortgage is 900 a month so you can weigh that against your claims that young people can’t buy a house today. Yes they can but you have to be willing to save money first. That’s a discipline all its own. My youngest son has paid off his house in Eugene and he’s only 33 years old. I think you are probably surrounded with young friends who haven’t figured out how to own a home yet and yes. It’s expensive to live in the most desirable areas. Choices

Your anectdotes don’t represent the reality of the situation. I’m sure your children have worked hard and done well and good on them for that. Sounds like they deserve everything they have. They represent a very, very small percentage of young Americans though. If you are just going to argue that young people are lazy and can’t save money there is no discussion to be had here. Inflation of home prices compared to stagnant wages, the percentage of an income matched to home prices isn’t in the same universe as 30 years ago. Add 7% interest onto all this and there is just nothing you can say here to justify your position. These numbers do not lie and they are horrifying. Young people are now having to compete with hedge funds in the housing market. These asset firms will buy up houses that sit empty, loan against them to build rental properties to stick the people who used to be able to afford those houses in, and charge them exorbitant rent, more than what the mortgage on the house they can’t get a loan for would’ve been. Not calling you ignorant or wrong, but you should dig into the housing crisis some more, it really is alarming. I feel my generation will be the last generation of homeowners.

 

[riverman]

I understand where you're coming from and I'm not even arguing against it. I think your mistake is making this Trump v Biden, when in reality this is a party problem. You talk about losing civil rights, but you fail to mention much of the Democratic party is pretty complicit. They told voters their priorities were The Voting Rights Act and the George Floyd Act... and instead Pelosi showed up in Kente cloth. It's all performative and both parties serve their masters... the corporations and the donor class. Even if their public position is one thing, behind the scenes they're right there with their Republican coworkers. When Biden was running, he went to Wall Street and told them nothing would fundamentally change.

Both parties will go wherever their donors will go, even if that means selling out your civil rights. It's already happened in fact. You can't get a public sector job unless you sign away the right to criticize Israel. That's happening in Democratic states and that's eliminating your civil rights. That's just one of many examples.

If we don't draw the line at genocide, when will we? How long are we going to do the "lesser of two evils" dance while we continue to get fucked?

That dance is precisely why both parties don't give a shit about improving your life.

I’ve never looked to govt to improve my life but I’m a white male. Trump isn’t the only problem although he’s a disaster as a leader. it’s the GOP wanting to destroy the peaceful transfer of power as well as the separation of church and state. Biden is a hawk and that’s something I disagree about but the alternative is beyond a disagreement, it’s a step towards martial law. I don’t want soldiers on the streets armed and shaking down civilians. The GOP has done literally nothing with their legislative majority than insult their constituents. passed no laws to help you and squashed immigration reform so Trump could weaponize it in his campaign