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Look up total deaths compared to other years and get back to me.
nah...there's a game on...death stats can't compete....but covid deaths would have to be included ....many many took retirement early ...many restaurant owners and pub owners, movie theater businesses cashed out and cut their losses....lots of things happened the last two years to make stats sway like earthquakes.
 
nah...there's a game on...death stats can't compete....but covid deaths would have to be included ....many many took retirement early ...many restaurant owners and pub owners, movie theater businesses cashed out and cut their losses....lots of things happened the last two years to make stats sway like earthquakes.

200,000 extra people retired in 2020? Got some stats to back that up? Sounds like you’re grasping for anything you can here.

Why did the business owners decide to cut their losses? Because business was doing so well?

Yea, “lots of things happened”, one of which being a massive upward wealth transfer almost singlehandedly achieved by Democrat lawmakers by crushing small businesses.
 
Yea, “lots of things happened”, one of which being a massive upward wealth transfer almost singlehandedly achieved by Democrat lawmakers by crushing small businesses.

Well, that surely didn't happen at the federal level, since there was a Republican senate and President to prevent it in 2020.
And it surely didn't happen at the state level in any of the red states, either.
So... I guess only blue states/cities lost small businesses? Is that your position? I guess you'd have data to back that up?

barfo
 
Hospitality Industry Deploys Robots To Combat The Great Resignation.

 
You seem to be telling me that you literally don't care that they fucked American workers. But, of course, that doesn't make sense. So, I am sorry, but I can't see your point.

Edit: See what our government allows corporations to get away with, and you will see their corruption. At Amazon you may end up peeing in a bottle to avoid being docked pay, for doing a normal bodily function. I wonder when the last time anyone here had to pee in a bottle during their job. And I don't see Biden going after Bezos over his inhumane business practices.
Where oh where does he even hint that he doesn't care the American workers are getting a raw deal? Show me that or retract it.
 
Well, that surely didn't happen at the federal level, since there was a Republican senate and President to prevent it in 2020.
And it surely didn't happen at the state level in any of the red states, either.
So... I guess only blue states/cities lost small businesses? Is that your position? I guess you'd have data to back that up?

barfo
The data is the result of Trump driven fantasies.
 
Well, that surely didn't happen at the federal level, since there was a Republican senate and President to prevent it in 2020.
And it surely didn't happen at the state level in any of the red states, either.
So... I guess only blue states/cities lost small businesses? Is that your position? I guess you'd have data to back that up?

barfo

Unemployment has been significantly higher in blue states than red states since covid, and it’s a direct result of those states’ covid policies. Everything else you mentioned is just irrelevant technicalities to try and steer the discussion off course in typical pirate fashion.
 
The data is the result of Trump driven fantasies.
When your answer to everything is “Trump” there is undoubtedly some fantasizing going on. I’m surprised Pfizer hasn’t tried to package and sell these fantasies as dick pills yet, given the hard-on it’s still giving boomers this far down the road.
 
We all have many answers for things but I have one answer for traitors to my country and their leader....fuck Trump. You can apply that wherever and ignore my views on Blazers trades if you like but when you talk to a disabled vet like Lanny about dick pills......somebody is fantasizing and it's not Lanny. That's to put it mildly ....a low blow to a senior citizen who got shot up in a war. Hope you never need modern medicine to save your life like I have 3 times in my life......funny, when I got injected 72 times with antibiotics in a hospital with a life threatening bacteria I didn' think about the Taiwanese pharmacutical company that made them turning a profit....instead I thanked them. Hopefully young man, you and your family never have a life threatening condition that requires antidotes.

You suggesting I was poking fun at someone’s ailments is really the only low blow here. My comment was far from a personal attack and you are twisting it around to turn it into one. I don’t know Lanny or his history, my remarks are based solely on people’s comments. You are making it into something it’s not and perpetrating me as a person who intentionally picks on people because of their ailments. You are the only one bringing up people’s personal lives right now as a means of argument, let’s be absolutely clear about that.
 
You suggesting I was poking fun at someone’s ailments is really the only low blow here. My comment was far from a personal attack and you are twisting it around to turn it into one. I don’t know Lanny or his history, my remarks are based solely on people’s comments. You are making it into something it’s not and perpetrating me as a person who intentionally picks on people because of their ailments. You are the only one bringing up people’s personal lives right now as a means of argument, let’s be absolutely clear about that.
The snark mirror is a bitch when it's turned around. Lanny has talked extensively about his war injury and medical issues....probably not in the covid or Joe Biden threads....I assume you read outside those two threads...probably shouldn't.
 
The snark mirror is a bitch when it's turned around. Lanny has talked extensively about his war injury and medical issues....probably not in the covid or Joe Biden threads....I assume you read outside those two threads...probably shouldn't.

Maybe you exploiting other people’s personal issues as a means to take a jab at another poster is actually the shitty behavior here. You literally brought these things up then pointed a finger at me like I did.
 
It was supply and demand that got Nixon repairing our relationship with China.....and it was good for both countries....what we deal with now is copywrite infringement and their cheap labor force...and as I said...Americans are spoiled by consumer goods nobody would make if there wasn't some demand...also show me americans making shoes that are affordable and guitars that a young person can afford to buy to use for work......we price gouged our own consumer goods and priced ourselves out of the competition in many fields....I think global trade is healthy but greedy business practices are not but I don't look to political leaders to change the landscape....I look to business folks to hold themselves accountable.....the American farmer lost it's biggest customer for farm products with this trade war so Trump gave them an 18 billion dollar bailout for the loss of income.....the farmers feed the world, not just America. In the 60s poor students and workers needed an affordable car....Germany gave them the VW bug....it filled that need.
I had a Bug, Fast Back, Bus & Manx dune buggy. Loved my Bus and had super times all up and down CA/OR coast in it.
 
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I had a Bug, Fast Back, Bus & Manx dune buggy. Loved my Bus and had super times all up and down CA/OR coast in it.
My buddy in high school had one and we had a lot of fun with that thing........another friend I had had me help him drive a VW bug from Chicago to San Diego....that was the hardest cross country trip I ever made...bugs don't handle the wind or the Rockies very well.
 
Maybe you exploiting other people’s personal issues as a means to take a jab at another poster is actually the shitty behavior here. You literally brought these things up then pointed a finger at me like I did.
I'll delete it since you find it personal....being a boomer who has a hard on for dick pills I should fall in line eh? Veiling insults though is great behavior then....gotcha....ask Lanny if I was exploiting his medical condition...if he thinks I was....I'll apologize to him....I must be getting cranky seeing as how my dick pills are late this month...go figure...and even after I bought all those damned Moderna stocks! (disclaimer....none of this is serious by any means....I need to clarify I guess or it'll rattle a cage or two)
 
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Hmmmm.....I didn't think you needed those.....and it comes naturally.

Spoiler: I'm deleting this post in 10 minutes.
I'm not shootin' pool with a rope yet but eventually we all slack off with age. Honestly I've never tried those pills...no reason...I have found a half dozen oysters on the half shell works wonders though...
 
I'm not shootin' pool with a rope yet but eventually we all slack off with age. Honestly I've never tried those pills...no reason...I have found a half dozen oysters on the half shell works wonders though...

You're a good man, Charlie Brown. I don't care what jonny sez.
 
I'm trying to keep in practice


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Unemployment has been significantly higher in blue states than red states since covid, and it’s a direct result of those states’ covid policies. Everything else you mentioned is just irrelevant technicalities to try and steer the discussion off course in typical pirate fashion.
And yet blue states still contribute $2 for every $1 to the U.S. Treasury. Why is that? More votes, more taxes and yet Trump still wants to make our country a dynasty.
 
200,000 extra people retired in 2020? Got some stats to back that up? Sounds like you’re grasping for anything you can here.

Why did the business owners decide to cut their losses? Because business was doing so well?

Yea, “lots of things happened”, one of which being a massive upward wealth transfer almost singlehandedly achieved by Democrat lawmakers by crushing small businesses.
Here you go from the Pew Research Center:
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...retirements-has-accelerated-in-the-past-year/
 
Andrew Cuomo Skates, Avoids ALL Criminal Charges. Elites Will Always Protect Their Own.



Biden's administration is letting Cuomo off the hook. It seems to be fine for the left to quietly protect their own, yet when the right does the same, shit hits the fan.

Both parties hypocrisies are blatant, yet both sides do nothing more than defend their own, as their own party's corruption goes unchecked...

It is no wonder America is in the state that it is currently in. The river "Denial" runs through both parties.
 
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Guantanamo Turns 20: Ex-Prisoner Moazzam Begg Calls on Biden to Close Site & End Legacy of Torture.



Biden says he wants to close Guantanamo, yet seems to be making plans to keep it open forever.
 
Andrew Cuomo Skates, Avoids ALL Criminal Charges. Elites Will Always Protect Their Own.



Biden's administration is letting Cuomo off the hook. It seems to be fine for the left to quietly protect their own, yet when the right does the same, shit hits the fan.

Both parties hypocrisies are blatant, yet both sides do nothing more than defend their own, as their own party's corruption goes unchecked...

It is no wonder America is in the state that it is currently in. The river "Denial" runs through both parties.


What exactly was Cuomo accused of in which he should be charged with something? I haven't been keeping up the Cuomo's or their bad behavior, but a quick review of the wiki page seems to hold to my memory that he's accused of sexual harassment. I am certainly not condoning his behavior, but what kind of charge could he plausibly be charged with for this accusation? I am not a lawyer so I don't know, but I can't think of anything in which he could legally be hit with here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Cuomo_sexual_harassment_allegations

That said your continued narrative about with the two primary American parties is inaccurate, it's what is called a false equivalence. They aren't the same, and neither is their response. Lets review an example I can think of off the top of my head of both the accusations and the parties responses.

  • Republican accusation: Matt Gaetz has been accused of statutory rape and trafficking a minor across state lines with very credible and lengthy amounts of evidence.
  • Republican party response: Nothing, literally nothing, not even a condemnation.
  • Democratic accusation: From what I recall, and please correct me if I am wrong, Cuomo was sexually harassing women.
  • Democratic response: Approval and support of an independent investigation, party driven impeachment trials within NY state, and eventually forcing Cuomo to resign.
Obviously not every single situation is the same, but this is generally the case right now and serves as useful examples of how each of the primary parties respond to such things. You're correct in stating both behaviors are bad, and both should not be tolerated I totally agree on that. But the whole narrative of "Both parties are bad, both parties are corrupt, both parties protect each other" you are always pushing does not pass the smell test here or in the vast majority of these examples. It is pretty much flat out false by virtually every measure, these two things are not the same, nor is the party response to them the same.
 
Sounds like he is going to call for changes to the filibuster, today.

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About time. Guess he was waiting for Manchin to experience modern bipartisanship first before he put too much pressure on him to change the filibuster. To any reasonable person outside of West Virginia it is obvious to all of us, but Manchin has to do his politicking for his base back home.
 
What exactly was Cuomo accused of in which he should be charged with something? I haven't been keeping up the Cuomo's or their bad behavior, but a quick review of the wiki page seems to hold to my memory that he's accused of sexual harassment. I am certainly not condoning his behavior, but what kind of charge could he plausibly be charged with for this accusation? I am not a lawyer so I don't know, but I can't think of anything in which he could legally be hit with here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Cuomo_sexual_harassment_allegations

That said your continued narrative about with the two primary American parties is inaccurate, it's what is called a false equivalence. They aren't the same, and neither is their response. Lets review an example I can think of off the top of my head of both the accusations and the parties responses.

  • Republican accusation: Matt Gaetz has been accused of statutory rape and trafficking a minor across state lines with very credible and lengthy amounts of evidence.
  • Republican party response: Nothing, literally nothing, not even a condemnation.
  • Democratic accusation: From what I recall, and please correct me if I am wrong, Cuomo was sexually harassing women.
  • Democratic response: Approval and support of an independent investigation, party driven impeachment trials within NY state, and eventually forcing Cuomo to resign.
Obviously not every single situation is the same, but this is generally the case right now and serves as useful examples of how each of the primary parties respond to such things. You're correct in stating both behaviors are bad, and both should not be tolerated I totally agree on that. But the whole narrative of "Both parties are bad, both parties are corrupt, both parties protect each other" you are always pushing does not pass the smell test here or in the vast majority of these examples. It is pretty much flat out false by virtually every measure, these two things are not the same, nor is the party response to them the same.

Sure, Andrew may not deserve jail time for harassment, but IMO he does for lying about it after the fact.

Though, the Biden administration already let Cuomo off the hook for his handling of all those nursing home deaths. Andrew should be in jail for what he did there. Instead he got protected by his party.

People seem to be overlooking this fact.

Chris Cuomo got himself fired from CNN for helping Andrew. Do people still trust CNN? No need to answer, since that answer is... of course they do.

The two parties protect their own. And so do their media.
 
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Sure, Andrew may not deserve jail time for harassment, but IMO he does for lying about it after the fact.

Though, the Biden administration already let Cuomo off the hook for his handling of all those nursing home deaths. Andrew should be in jail for what he did there. Instead he got protected by his party.

People seem to be overlooking this fact.

Chris Cuomo got himself fired from CNN for helping Andrew. Do people still trust CNN? No need to answer, since that answer is... of course they do.

The two parties protect their own. And so do their media.

You're no longer being consistent on your original statement, you said he should be charged for what he did and linked to an article about his sexual harassment complaints. You may not have explicitly stated this, but you implicitly implied that the Democrats are letting him get away with something here that he should be charged with. You're moving the goal posts instead of addressing my original statement and point, the parties handle such things differently period there is mountains of evidence on this. There's a reason for why Andrew Cuomo is no longer an active Democratic politician, and why Matt Gaetz and Donald Trump still are - it's their party. One party holds their own accountable, the other does not.

This is the same for CNN versus say the obvious of Fox - CNN has many faults, but the at least attempt to use their best judgement to handle issues that arise within their company using journalistic principles and practices. CNN can't see into the future and see that Chris Cuomo is going to go rogue, but once he had done something that was against said standard journalistic principles the only recourse they can do after the fact is to terminate him... Which they did. Your own example disproves your own point. Look at Fox and see that Tucker Carlson is continuing to lie and push Republican narratives that have no basis in reality or observable facts to see how these two companies handle things, well, differently. Again it's a false equivalency.
 
Sure, Andrew may not deserve jail time for harassment, but IMO he does for lying about it after the fact.

Though, the Biden administration already let Cuomo off the hook for his handling of all those nursing home deaths. Andrew should be in jail for what he did there. Instead he got protected by his party.

People seem to be overlooking this fact.

Chris Cuomo got himself fired from CNN for helping Andrew. Do people still trust CNN? No need to answer, since that answer is... of course they do.

The two parties protect their own. And so do their media.

As for the nursing home fiasco, as far as I know and can find the FBI is still investigating this. Do you have more up to date information on what's going on with this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_COVID-19_nursing_home_scandal

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/19/andrew-cuomo-fbi-donors-nursing-homes
 
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