Politics The Joe Biden Thread (3 Viewers)

[Kano John]

Would you allow people to vote in multiple primaries?

Good question - I can't imagine how that would work - people should only have a single vote in any given election. Ideally all candidates would be on a single ballot regardless of party affiliation but I think that's pretty much a pipe dream, at least in my lifetime.

 

[barfo]

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I don't think that if what I am saying is true that nothing good would ever get done. Some good things could happen, but with current Dem and Republican leadership the overall trend is that more is given to the elite and more is taken from the general population.

Ok.

Increasing tailpipe emissions standards is a good thing, but if that comes with committing us to (or unnecessarily exposing us to the long term risk of needing to) burn fossil fuels in our cars it is not a good thing, overall.

Not sure cutting off ICE vehicles immediately has yet been an achievable option, although it will be one day. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

barfo

 

[barfo]

Good question - I can't imagine how that would work - people should only have a single vote in any given election. Ideally all candidates would be on a single ballot regardless of party affiliation but I think that's pretty much a pipe dream, at least in my lifetime.

It's not such a pipe dream, other states have that, including California - although not for presidential elections.

barfo

 

[Phatguysrule]

Not sure cutting off ICE vehicles immediately has yet been an achievable option, although it will be one day. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

barfo

That's not what I said. That has no bearing on my position at all.

 

[crandc]

All cats are independents.

 

[barfo]

That's not what I said. That has no bearing on my position at all.

Then I didn't understand what you said.

barfo

 

[Phatguysrule]

Then I didn't understand what you said.

barfo

If our leaders are being funded by the fossil fuel industry they are going to side with the fossil fuel industry over us. If emissions standards or carbon capture does prevent a bit of greenhouse emissions but replaces or leads to the delay of other policy that would eliminate or drastically reduce overall fossil fuel usage sooner then it is a net negative.

Carbon offsets would be a good example. Plastic "recycling" would be another.

 

[Everything Beagle]

Until there’s an emissions standard with no exceptions (e.g., for trucks and SUV’s) any emissions standard is effectively toothless. Car companies will just stop selling anything smaller than crossovers to the US, because the exception is the way to get out of doing extra work. Companies are lazy cheapskates and will always be. Regulations only work when they have to be followed.

 

[Hoopguru]

Hydrogen ICE's will make lithium obsolete! Intake Compression Power Exhaust steam.

 

[Hoopguru]

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[Phatguysrule]

Hydrogen ICE's will make lithium obsolete! Intake Compression Power Exhaust steam.

Problem with hydrogen is that it's an incredibly inefficient process to make it (losing 30% of the energy) and store it (losing another 10%) then you lose like 1% of it's mass per day in storage (in incredibly expensive tanks). And after all of that you run it through an internal combustion engine in which you lose another 50% of what energy you do have left.

And it is most cost effectively made from natural gas.

And the natural gas portion is not an environmentally friendly solution either.

 

[Hoopguru]

Problem with hydrogen is that it's an incredibly inefficient process to make it (losing 30% of the energy) and store it (losing another 10%) then you lose like 1% of it's mass per day in storage (in incredibly expensive tanks). And after all of that you run it through an internal combustion engine in which you lose another 50% of what energy you do have left.

And it is most cost effectively made from natural gas.

And the natural gas portion is not an environmentally friendly solution either.

I agree there are challenges to address before hydrogen becomes a feasible source for power.

 

[Phatguysrule]

I agree there are challenges to address before hydrogen becomes a feasible source for power.

And I'll agree that hydrogen could well have a place in our energy grid. I just don't know how it would work. If we could come up with a way to store it, then outlaw making it from natural gas... Or maybe just get the environmental impact tax and dividend going... Then it would have a chance of being used for good.

Maybe using AI we come up with a model that will point us in the direction of a material which can actually keep the stuff from slipping right through the wall...

 

[crandc]

Fox has found proof of Biden's decline: ice cream! Yes, Biden is fond of ice cream. His favorite flavor is chocolate chip. But chocolate chip is not one of the top five most popular ice cream flavors. Obviously Biden is unpopular. And also in mental decline because he chose unpopular flavor.

Young girls select a shade of lipstick because Taylor Swift uses it. But if I thought Biden was greatest political leader in world history it would not affect the flavor of ice cream I eat.

 

[barfo]

Young girls select a shade of lipstick because Taylor Swift uses it. But if I thought Biden was greatest political leader in world history it would not affect the flavor of ice cream I eat.

But would you wear the same shade of lipstick as Joe Biden?

barfo

 

[crandc]

But would you wear the same shade of lipstick as Joe Biden?

barfo

I don't wear lipstick.

 

[Phatguysrule]

I don't wear lipstick.

I didn't realize we have so much in common!

 

[barfo]

Nonsense. The choice isn't being taken away from you. You will be completely free to vote for the felon if you wish.

Is Trump felon? I hadn’t realized a ruling was made on the felony charges.

The trial will be over well before the election. If he's acquitted, he won't be a felon. If he's convicted, he will be a felon, but you'll still be free to vote for him.

[Narrator's voice]And so it came to pass that he was indeed convicted, and jonnyboy indeed was free to vote for the felon.[/Narrator]

barfo

 

[barfo]

Except, possibly, in the state of WA, which apparently has a law against felons on the ballot.

barfo

 

[Phatguysrule]

 

[beast blazer]

This is so spot on. I hate the democreeps.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

This is so spot on. I hate the democreeps.
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Yeah, and Democreeps hate Repubic-hairs. See how that sophomoric rhetoric works? Keep on living in your echo chamber......

 

[crandc]

Wall Street Journal ran absolute hit piece on Biden with screaming headline that "some" are worried about his decline. The sources all Republican politicians. Many of whom are on record saying privately that Biden is engaged and informed but in public they say he is senile.

 

[Phatguysrule]

This is so spot on. I hate the democreeps.
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This just looks like a link to Republicans complaining... I don't see evidence of anything.

 

[oldfisherman]

I do not beleive Biden is senile.

I do beleive Biden has a long history of poor decision making. A combination of slow walking timely decisions, then doing too little, too late. Then Biden changes his mind creating bigger problems, even when handed the best answer. Then Biden blames the problems he creates on others, while claiming to have the only answer. Biden is one big fuck up.

Leaders around the world consider Biden very weak, and untrustworthy.

The only comparision I can think of between Biden and Trump is.

Neither one is qualified to be hired as a door greeter at Walmart, let alone have the most powerful position in the world.

 

[Hoopguru]

I do not beleive Biden is senile.

I do beleive Biden has a long history of poor decision making. A combination of slow walking timely decisions, then doing too little, too late. Then Biden changes his mind creating bigger problems, even when handed the best answer. Then Biden blames the problems he creates on others, while claiming to have the only answer. Biden is one big fuck up.

Leaders around the world consider Biden very weak, and untrustworthy.

The only comparision I can think of between Biden and Trump is.

Neither one is qualified to be hired as a door greeter at Walmart, let alone have the most powerful position in the world.

Even in Joes younger years he always made outlandish remarks to the point of having a reputation of being an idiot....

 

[beast blazer]

 

[beast blazer]

Wall Street Journal ran absolute hit piece on Biden with screaming headline that "some" are worried about his decline. The sources all Republican politicians. Many of whom are on record saying privately that Biden is engaged and informed but in public they say he is senile.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Phatguysrule]

I do not beleive Biden is senile.

I do beleive Biden has a long history of poor decision making. A combination of slow walking timely decisions, then doing too little, too late. Then Biden changes his mind creating bigger problems, even when handed the best answer. Then Biden blames the problems he creates on others, while claiming to have the only answer. Biden is one big fuck up.

Leaders around the world consider Biden very weak, and untrustworthy.

The only comparision I can think of between Biden and Trump is.

Neither one is qualified to be hired as a door greeter at Walmart, let alone have the most powerful position in the world.

I would mostly agree, except that Biden has a much more professional and qualified cabinet. And I'd rather they were greeting my costumers than the MAGA turds that Trump brings around, if I were Walmart.