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Phatguysrule said:
This is what I would expect to happen. Olshey was gone as soon as her fired Stotts and claimed the roster wasn't the problem.
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The implication here is that whoever regardless of who the new GM...Billups may be on the hot seat sooner rather than later.
 
B-Roy said:
The implication here is that whoever regardless of who the new GM...Billups may be on the hot seat sooner rather than later.
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Yep. I fully expect that exact scenario. Billups will be gone after next season unless we make a deep run.
 
illmatic99 said:
i don't. considering how crucial billups reportedly has been in calming down the dame drama, i think chauncey is in for the long haul.

(his contract makes it a no-brainer).
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He would be the first coach to buck the "GM with a coach that wasn't picked by the GM" trend then. Plenty of others have been fired with years left on their deals. Then again, Jody may just suck it up because she doesn't want to payout Chauncey's deal.
 
illmatic99 said:
i don't. considering how crucial billups reportedly has been in calming down the dame drama, i think chauncey is in for the long haul.

(his contract makes it a no-brainer).
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In which case we probably will not get a good GM. If the GM doesn't have that authority he's not going to take this job, (unless Billups is his friend).
 
Honestly, CJ/Roco for Love Okoro makes us a better team (and maybe Cleveland too). Also gets us under the LT this year and gives us more flexibility for the next few years.

Lillard/Simons
Powell/(Simons/Okoro)
Little/Okoro
Nance/Love
Nurkic/Zeller
 
Phatguysrule said:
In which case we probably will not get a good GM. If the GM doesn't have that authority he's not going to take this job, (unless Billups is his friend).
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i think chauncey gets at least two years regardless of who the GM is. perhaps just my intuition, but i think he's gonna be a good coach once he figures out the nuances of his role.
 
illmatic99 said:
i think chauncey gets at least two years regardless of who the GM is. perhaps just my intuition, but i think he's gonna be a good coach once he figures out the nuances of his role.
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If he's a legit good coach, and the GM makes a decent move or two we should be able to get out of first round next season.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Love is done. Cap filler, that's it.
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Sure, and CJ's a piece of shit that borders on a net negative (with contract). Love expires a year earlier, could give us 20 good minutes (when healthy), and Okoro would be a great b/u 2/3 for our future. Cavs probably wouldn't make the trade unless they're desperate for scoring this year and are either down on Sexton or don't think he'll regain his form after the surgery.
 
boredinsalem said:
Sure, and CJ's a piece of shit that borders on a net negative (with contract). Love expires a year earlier, could give us 20 good minutes (when healthy), and Okoro would be a great b/u 2/3 for our future. Cavs probably wouldn't make the trade unless they're desperate for scoring this year and are either down on Sexton or don't think he'll regain his form after the surgery.
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Love isn't going to give anybody a good 20 minutes anymore. Just as well trade Dame if that's all you can get for CJ.
 
Phatguysrule said:
But he hit on CJ and Dame... So he's 2/3 on lotto picks.
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If you are going to give him credit for Dame (debatable) then he also gets the blame for Leonard. That leaves him with a lotto record of one great pick, one OK pick (but not the best player available), and 2 horrible misses. Call it 1 win, 2 losses, and 1 draw.
 
It's still strange to me that they let Olshey keep his job last summer, pick his coach, give that coach a lucrative 5 year deal, and then fire the guy midseason for being a douchenozzle. I mean, they must have known a long time ago that he was a douchenozzle, why all of a sudden now?
 
Phatguysrule said:
Love isn't going to give anybody a good 20 minutes anymore. Just as well trade Dame if that's all you can get for CJ.
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He's playing much better than CJ right now, basically leading their bench unit and keeping the ball moving.

Also, the value in the deal is Okoro who could play as b/u 2/3 while Simons scores buckets.
 
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B-Roy said:
It's still strange to me that they let Olshey keep his job last summer, pick his coach, give that coach a lucrative 5 year deal, and then fire the guy midseason for being a douchenozzle. I mean, they must have known a long time ago that he was a douchenozzle, why all of a sudden now?
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Maybe they wanted to see if there was instant improvements with Chauncy and the "deep roster."
 
boredinsalem said:
He's playing much better than CJ right now, basically leading their bench unit and keeping the ball moving.
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But he's not going to help us get where Dame wants to go. That's all I'm saying. Dame deserves a better return on CJ than that. If we can't get Dame a guy in his prime who is a border-line all star we're better off to just start the rebuild now.
 
B-Roy said:
It's still strange to me that they let Olshey keep his job last summer, pick his coach, give that coach a lucrative 5 year deal, and then fire the guy midseason for being a douchenozzle. I mean, they must have known a long time ago that he was a douchenozzle, why all of a sudden now?
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This is my point about being a poor ownership group. As soon as they decided Stotts was done, Olshey should have been fired as well.
 
B-Roy said:
It's still strange to me that they let Olshey keep his job last summer, pick his coach, give that coach a lucrative 5 year deal, and then fire the guy midseason for being a douchenozzle. I mean, they must have known a long time ago that he was a douchenozzle, why all of a sudden now?
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When you put it that way I think the only answer is that some of the complaints that came forward this season were enough to scare Vulcan about their own liability. Probably also why they felt comfortable today firing Neil with cause. I honestly doubt that they really wanted Olshey gone. The fact is that he is gone now and any GM that is brought in will want to clean up this mess of a roster. Chauncey is really well liked around the league so I'm betting that the new GM will want to give him a shot with a functional roster.

Hopefully that GM hiring happens with enough time to move CJ before the trade deadline and also RoCo and Nurk if the new GM doesn't plan on re-signing those two.
 
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